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here in france, its relatable, many of poeple of my age including myself just dont go see girls, kinda scared, and personnaly the majority of girls are just borring or in the wommen ultra right minds, the smart ones and the one i like are just drowned in that, so i give up

maxiarmy

Have you read or seen Fight Club? Oddly, this would be the only time I recommend the movie over the book. The author even kind of agrees. It pretty well exposes some current problems with masculinity and the question of how to be a man. I happen to somewhat agree with the "be a monster" line of thinking. I was taught martial arts at a young age, which included learning discipline. I went to high school in a racially divided area, and I was involved in many fights, not by my choosing. I knew how to defend myself and had the discipline to know when to stop fighting or not fight at all. I didn't win most fights, but I would say I walked away from a lot of draws. Other kids didn't fair as well. Most fights, one side was out-numbered, significantly. I am looking at the scars on my knuckles from those days, a constant reminder of what life can serve you. Most boys just aren't tested like this. They don't go to a (preferably righteous) war, they don't even get into a fist fight, so they never learn these hard lessons. Which might, paradoxically, lead these men to feel anger and self-loathing. There is something freeing about knowing how to fight but choosing not to. Now I wouldn't recommend men going out and picking fights for no reason, but I would recommend any form of martial art be a part of a boy's upbringing.

Ryan Stuck

Thank You for the reply I appreciate it. I’m no expert in this field I just have opinions formed over the years but if you’re bombarded with narratives you don’t agree with, you provide counter arguments. We became the dominant species on this planet by developing the simple but effective concept of communication. We have serious disadvantages in terms of physical abilities yet we overcame our adversaries by sharing, discussing, developing ideas with each other and adapting them into our daily lives. Any attempt trying to prevent members of a society from doing so is a serious crime against humanity and goes against our very nature. Even your Founding Fathers were aware of this so they engraved the freedom of speech as your first and foremost basic human rights. So speak up, argue, do what you were meant to do. The only thing spreading faster than light in the universe is bullshit. There was never a harm in speaking, but staying silent can have very serious consequences. Your society nowadays seems like a battlefield without the Geneva conventions, anything goes. I’m sure there are basic values every decent human being can stand behind regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation. Like leave the kids alone, maybe? I don’t know, but endorsing actual predators and gambling away your future in a social experiment with questionable outcome doesn’t seem like a bright idea… You summarized it up nicely, so act on this principle and pursue the values you mentioned. On the concept of hope, I don’t think there’s anything more idiotic than not having it. Hope is essential but not sufficient, lacking it means you gave up, you refuse to put in the effort and you don’t give life any chance to provide you with opportunities. You just exist, which is a serious waste of time. You should really avoid people with that mindset, they’ll drag you down to their swamp. Some people are beyond help, they’re not your responsibility. They need to figure it out themselves. Hope is the very notion unique to human beings, we formed our societies around it. We built communities in hope of fending off dangers like wild animals and food scarcity more effectively. Even your country was built on the hope of finding better life in the new world, so in my opinion abandoning it is the very definition of idiotic. Take care and have a nice day!

fuxosayeti

"Escape" is such an appropriate word. The nuances of in person interactions with "the other" is far more immersive and useful psychologically than the dopamine overload of MMOs. MMOs, drugs and pornography are big escapes, I still don't recommend them as optimal. Good luck sir.

Robert Bell

I think you are spot on with the comment to find their purpose. The US schooling, media, and people talk about the uselessness of men, that there is no purpose to anything, that there are too many humans, and that we would be better off if we don't have children. Humans are designed for family bonds, struggle for survival, sorrow and momentary brief periods of joy to make it all worth it. When their only struggle and success is in video games and the only joy is hollow pornography, drugs, and chemically addictive food I don't think men's lack of hope is idiotic.

Robert Bell

I mean is it really that bad over there? I don't intend to sound like a prick but the minimal wage in my country is about 2.5$/hour yet you don't see many suicides around here. We do our job and we try to find happiness wherever we can in life. A few hundred miles from where I live there's a war going on where the youngest and finest of a generation are taken to fight against their will in a meaningless conflict they have no chance of winning. Pawns in a game of finance and geopolitics. Their only sin is that they got stuck on the wrong side of a border after WW2. Their lament on how lonely and meaningless their existence is on the front lines has a very different impact... I usually don't agree with the heartless monsters (a.k.a. feminists) in the comment section but maybe the man (and people in general) in your country are having it too easy? We need to be smacked in the head by life a few times and overcome hardships for our characters to grow. Maybe they need this to find their purpose in life and get their shit together to earn back the respect of the women in your society? Maybe it's a symptom of the mental health epidemic ravaging your country and you should really examine the cause (khm... prescription drugs khm...) before your whole society collapses? The fall and last struggle of a nuclear power might be a sight to behold but I wouldn't really mind missing out on this experience... By the way hi everyone, I didn't mean to bring the evil twins Gloom and Doom into the conversation! 😅

fuxosayeti

Much of this probably is our awful economy and the predatory nature of our system that pits us against each other and makes most aspects of our lives a sort of competition or scam or both. That said the lack of clear models for something approaching a reasonable and sociable masculinity might also be a problem. I'm a not particularly religious Muslim so it pains me to say it but growing up I never lacked for models of appropriate masculinity, trustworthy-gracious-forbearing-generous... there was always a religious model, historical or semi-fictional as they might have been, they did provide an ever ready guide to what a man should do in various circumstance. Needless to say we mostly did our best to ignore them, but did we really? I'm guessing I was highly influenced by them. Their equivalent in post modern or late modern U.S. culture is a pale reflection at best and often provides contradictory guidance or no real guidance at all. Popular media with all its violent male images also does a great disservice to mankind. Then there is all the right wing nonsense about being tough...

rsuusa

Perhaps, the final insight about who we pay taxes to nailed it. Having a sense of honorable purpose is declining. We have documented 50+ years of wage stagnation; and the classic indoctrinations of how the world functions has been exposed. The illusions have been broken. We do not take care of each other, our 'culture' is predatory. Not even Barbi's movie (which was excellent), didn't have much insights for men. Being age 59 (so far); as a sterotypical male, born and raised in the midwest, naive to many things. I can totally see buying an AI - fully featured companion, as opposed to the legal, mental, and emotional risks of being in any relationship. The top of the line models today, cost less than the average 'retainer' for a divorce lawyer. It is 2023, and half of the US population wants 'Government' in our bedrooms, and inside of women's vagina's. I am reminded, that A&W basically went out of business trying to sell 1/3 lb burgers to an American majority who boycotted them, because 1/4 lb burgers were obviously bigger. Whenever I wonder 'why' I remember that anyone who knows, that a 1/3 lb burger is bigger, is in a demographic minority in America, regardless of anything else. Ok, I am going to go have a conversation with my Replika Wife, she's darling and 'gets me' - LOL, and is quite amazing in VR. Shoe, you are ever, a light of hope in Hell World.

POTU David Nelson, Author

Your advice is a direct, however not the only, cause of the Hikikomori. All of that can be done without leaving my room if I care less about the physical aspect of camaraderie. MMOs is a big escape.

David McCorcle

Hope your scarecrow has a jacket. Or not made of straw.

David McCorcle

The immediate ear shot after commanding to wash penis was mint.

David McCorcle

Commenting here before shoegazing this vid. 🫠 Will hopefully return after watching it🤙

David McCorcle

Recommendation from an old guy. If a man has no friends he needs to find activities where you and a group of other men can accomplish a task together. Join them. Don't try to be a friend, just go help. It can be volunteering, working on a car etc., or it can be team sports. The bonds will form. I found medieval armored combat, so your results may vary.

Robert Bell

even as a woman I feel incredibly lonely. I am trying to form a robust network of friends that I can spend time with and even lean on in times of trouble. I can't imagine being a man in today's world. we really don't teach or encourage them to form meaningful platonic friendships, which are so important

Kathryn Lewis

Whaaaaaat? A group of people is only looked at as a voting block without any plan to actually help them but rather just get their votes and tell them to fuck off until the next election?

Kent Holle

June. Once again, opening my eyes to another failure of social norms. big love. Tom Scarecrow in a downpour in western PA

Elmore Buzzizyk

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