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LHC
2021-02-19 17:14:08 +0000 UTCCan we say it is a problem? Like if HKer moved to UK/Taiwan/Australia, their 2nd generation recognized themselves as HKer. We would be happy to see the heritage of HK can pass on.
LHC
2021-02-19 17:04:45 +0000 UTCSsu Kyi is therefore right in not showing favour to either side.
avger
2021-02-19 17:00:06 +0000 UTCIn the long run the Rohingya probably lose out, because they are outnumbered (not necessarily because they are more merciful).
avger
2021-02-19 16:58:46 +0000 UTCA Rohingya armed group brandishing guns and swords is responsible for at least one, and potentially a second, massacre of up to 99 Hindu women, men, and children as well as additional unlawful killings and abductions of Hindu villagers in August 2017, Amnesty International revealed today after carrying out a detailed investigation inside Myanmar’s Rakhine State. Based on dozens of interviews conducted there and across the border in Bangladesh, as well as photographic evidence analyzed by forensic pathologists, the organization revealed how Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army (ARSA) fighters sowed fear among Hindus and other ethnic communities with these brutal attacks. “Our latest investigation on the ground sheds much-needed light on the largely under-reported human rights abuses by ARSA during northern Rakhine State’s unspeakably dark recent history,†said Tirana Hassan, Crisis Response Director at Amnesty International.
avger
2021-02-19 16:57:10 +0000 UTCAtrocities go both ways. The below is one well known report of Rohingyas committing atrocities.
avger
2021-02-19 16:57:03 +0000 UTCæ˜‚å±±ç´ å§¬æ²’æœ‰ç‚ºç¾…èˆˆäºžäººæ»…çµ•ç™¼è², ç‰åŒå¹«å‡¶, 責任難逃的, ä¸ä½©æ°‘ä¸»å¥³ç¥žç¨±è™Ÿã€‚è‡³æ–¼ä»æœ‰ä¸€å®šçš„æ°‘望, åªæ˜¯æ¯”èµ·è»æ–¹çš„貪è…ç¨è£å’Œæ‰‹æ®µä¾†èªª, è¦ªæ˜‚å±±é ˜å°Žå‚·å®³è¼ƒè¼•å§
Elaine Yip
2021-02-19 15:53:19 +0000 UTCSuu Kyi is definitely a controversial political figure. True. Mandela seems to be more respected for his contributions of racial equality in South Africa. However, Simon rightly pointed out her constraints in Burma. Netizens are arguing over whether she is held responsible for the Rohingya genocide. Well, of course, she must be one of them giving green light but the paradox is ..... did she have the choice? Of course, we may argue that she should fight for those people lives at all costs. She is to blame for sure BUT it may be unfair to her as well if we do not take her real situation into account. Accusing a person of not doing enough is very easy. Maybe, it is about time for us to understand that reality is always more complicated and tough than we thought. I am not here to defend this lady but the truth is she could only see her husband five times after her house arrest. I genuinely believe that she could leave Burma if she wanted but she knew that she could not get back again. If you were her, would you do that? Well, nobody knows if suu kyi has been corrupted or polluted by political power. What I know is we should judge a person from a broader and multifaceted perspective. Sometimes, judging the book by its cover is very unfair and shallow........
Thomas Tong
2021-02-19 14:57:01 +0000 UTC我猜他指的是若開邦的羅興亞人被殺和燒æ‘的事,然後昂山在è½è‰æœƒä¸Šå¦èªæœ‰å± 殺一事å§ã€‚
Ls Kwan
2021-02-19 14:38:28 +0000 UTCåŒæ„ã€‚è»æ–¹å°±æ˜¯è¦æŠŠæ°‘主滅於èŒèŠ½ã€‚è·Ÿä¸åœ‹ä¸€æ¨£ã€‚
Ls Kwan
2021-02-19 14:29:29 +0000 UTCThis is probably not unique to countries in Asia. In England, there is a sizible Irish popular, who still identify themselves as Irish after generations. Whom until recently faces institutions discrimination, and might still do. For the uninitiated foreigner, regardless of the perspective, it is an easy "mistake" to call a Welsh, Scottish or Irish person "English". That is by far the easiest way to "annoy" them. This seem more like a global problem of understanding, or the lack of, of any historical issue involved more than one type of person.
Tom
2021-02-19 13:41:05 +0000 UTCæˆ‘æœƒé€™æ¨£èªªï¼Œæ˜¯å› ç‚ºçœ‹äº†é€™ç¯‡æ–‡ç« ã€‚æ£å› ç‚ºæ˜‚å±±æ˜¯å¼±å‹¢çš„ï¼Œå¥¹åªæœ‰æ°‘æœ›ï¼Œå»æ²’有太多實權。如果在羅興亞人的事情上發è²äº†ï¼Œåªæœƒä»¤åœ‹å…§çš„人更é‡å°ä»–們,特別是該國的激進佛教組織。外國的制è£ï¼Œå°šä¸”ä¸èƒ½æœ‰æ•ˆåˆ¶æ¢åœ‹é˜²è»çš„æ”¿è®Šï¼Œæ›´ä½•æ³å°å°çš„羅興亞人? 當然,這絕ä¸ä»£è¡¨å¥¹ä¸æ˜¯æ¬ŠåŠ›æ“æŠ±è€…ã€‚æˆ‘åªæ˜¯ä¸æƒ³ç¾åœ¨å°±ä¸‹çµè«–, https://theinitium.com/article/20170915-international-MyanmarRohingya/invite_token/dehzYrpkmE
Ls Kwan
2021-02-19 12:26:09 +0000 UTCæ˜Žé¡¯ï¼Œè»æ–¹å’Œæ˜‚å±±åœ¨ç·¬ç”¸æ”¿åºœä¸æ˜¯å‹¢ä¸å…©ç«‹çš„ï¼› é›™æ–¹çš„åˆ†æ§æœ€è¿‘å¤§çˆ†ç™¼æš´éœ²å‡ºä¾†äº†ã€‚ä½ èªªçš„å± æ®ºæ˜¯èª°å¹¹çš„å‘¢ï¼Ÿ
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2021-02-19 12:24:05 +0000 UTC行大緬æ—主義唔會令昂山å—è´è²¬ï¼Œä½†å± 殺會,昂山民望å’高,有需è¦è¡Œåˆ°ç„¡å·®åˆ¥å± 殺,讚æšå¼·å§¦å©¦å¥³å˜…è¡Œç‚ºå—Žï¼Ÿæ ¹æœ¬å°±ä¿‚æ¬ŠåŠ›æ“æŠ±è€…
Vincent Cheuk Yin Lam
2021-02-19 11:57:17 +0000 UTC甚麼支æŒè€…看法都是å½å‘½é¡Œï¼Œæ˜‚山民望å’高,如果曾經真心為民主åšå˜¢ï¼Œå°±ç®—冇å¯èƒ½æ°‘æ—å¹³ç‰ï¼Œéƒ½å†‡ç†ç”±æ“æŠ±å± æ®ºè¡Œç‚ºã€‚ æ ¹æœ¬æ˜‚å±±åªä¿‚æ¬ŠåŠ›æ“æŠ±è€…
Vincent Cheuk Yin Lam
2021-02-19 11:54:33 +0000 UTCè¥¿è—æ¼¢æ—人å£è¿…速增長,從解放時期的數百人,到如今已超éŽ8% (ä¿å®ˆä¼°è¨ˆï¼‰ã€‚ 但什麼是西è—,什麼是西è—äººå’Œè¥¿è—æ–‡åŒ–,ä¸ä½†é”è³´å–‡å˜›ï¼ˆæ ¼é¯æ´¾ï¼‰æœ‰çœ‹æ³•,其他寧瑪派薩迦派ç‰é ˜è¢–也有相åŒçš„çœ‹æ³•ï¼›å°±å¦‚ç·¬ç”¸è»æ–¹å’Œæ˜‚å±±ç´ å§¬å°ä»€éº¼æ˜¯ç·¬ç”¸ä»€éº¼æ˜¯ç·¬ç”¸äººä¸€æ¨£ã€‚
avger
2021-02-19 11:45:45 +0000 UTC(除了ROHINGYA)
avger
2021-02-19 11:23:48 +0000 UTCç·¬ç”¸è»æ–¹å’Œæ˜‚å±±ç´ å§¬å°â€œä»€éº¼æ˜¯ç·¬ç”¸â€ï¼Œ 緬甸的æ·å²å’Œå„æ°‘æ—ç‰çš„看法ç‰ç‰ï¼Œ æ‡‰è©²æ˜¯è¼ƒä¸€è‡´çš„ï¼Œè€Œä¸”æ›´æº–ç¢ºåœ°åæ˜ æ™®é緬甸境內的人的想法。
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2021-02-19 11:23:10 +0000 UTCæœ‰è¶£çš„æ¯”è¼ƒã€‚æ˜‚å±±ç´ å§¬é¢å°è»æ–¹å’Œå•†ç•Œå„種錯綜複雜的利益關係,國內ä¸åŒç¨®æ—強力的民æ¦åœ˜ï¼Œåˆè¦é¢å°ä¸åœ‹å·¨äººçš„金錢基建利誘和侵略,實在太ä¸å®¹æ˜“了。 è¦æ˜¯æ˜‚å±±åªæ˜¯ä¸€å€‹ç«™åœ¨é“å¾·é«˜åœ°èªªè©±çš„äººï¼Œä¸€å¿ƒè¿½æ±‚ç†æƒ³ä¸çš„æ°‘主,而毫ä¸ç†æœƒç·¬ç”¸çœŸå¯¦çš„經濟情æ³å’Œå®—æ•™è¡çªï¼Œæˆ‘çŒœå¥¹åªæœƒæ›´å¿«åœ°è¢«å¤±æœ›çš„æ°‘眾拉下來,或者是被國防è»ç•¶ä½œç·¬ç”¸è¿½æ±‚民主的å‰ç¥¥ç‰©ã€‚åªæœ‰ç¶“æ¿Ÿç™¼å±•äº†ï¼Œæ†²æ³•å®Œå–„äº†ï¼Œæ˜‚å±±æ‰æœ‰bargaining power去全é¢å°æŠ—國防è»ã€‚ 外媒èªç‚ºæ˜‚山她ä¸èƒ½åœ¨çŸçŸæ•¸å¹´å…§ä»¤ç·¬ç”¸é‡ç”Ÿï¼Œå°±æ˜¯å¢®è½ï¼Œé€™ä¹Ÿå¤ªåš´è‹›äº†å§ã€‚
Ls Kwan
2021-02-19 11:17:39 +0000 UTCIt is better that we try to understand Asian problems from a perspective which also includes Asian historical understanding.
avger
2021-02-19 10:47:02 +0000 UTCThere are numerous Koreans born and raised in Japan. There always was a racial problem on this issue. Both the Japanese and the Koreans remember from their history that Koreans are not Japanese. Only in a Western context would Japan-born Koreans be called "Japanese". In Western civilisation this is seen as a big problem, particularly in years past, because Japan-born Koreans were perceived to be disadvantaged, economically, socially and politically.
avger
2021-02-19 10:44:22 +0000 UTCSsu Kyi is much misunderstood and maligned on the racial issue. Myanmar, unlike the other three Indochinese theravadist (上座部/å°ä¹˜ï¼‰countries (Laos, Cambodia, Thailand) which are less heterogenous, Myanmar has always been much more multi-racial. When she came together it was. always as a Buddhist land. The Rohingya however are are Muslim Bengali migrants from recent [British] times : at no time were they part of Myanmar's age-old history. The Army's view of the Rohingya, as well as Ssu Kyi's view of the Rohingya, properly reflects the view of the people of Myanmar. Only if one subscribes to contemporary Western interpretations of Nationality could it be argued that the Rohingya are part of Myanmar.
avger
2021-02-19 10:39:11 +0000 UTC