【讀者分享】留下來的老師，其實貢獻很大
Added 2022-06-18 12:02:00 +0000 UTC沈博你好，其實睇完段片，作為仍留在香港的老師，感覺很差。
我們也知道情況困難，大家都明白現在情況與前不同，但同時我們也有不少人正努力做我們要做的事。
對，現今時事政治當然不能談論，但我們都會思考不同方法讓學生明白事理。Covid過後，學生的情緒問題彼彼皆是，其實你片段內表達到次要重要的「關心學生」，在現今常有學生輕生的香港似乎同樣重要。
而且，我們或去或留，大家的考慮因素可以很不同；政治自由、公民價值是不少人考慮的因素，但生活與財政上的自由同樣都需要考慮。
片段過後，我睇唔到任何人鼓勵還勉力留港的同工，睇唔到大家如何掙扎與努力，只感受到我們很需要很需要離港。
我明白片段內兩位的論點，身邊一有同工離開，我也全力祝福與支持；但為何留港的同工，面對沉重壓力下，只能感受到被唯棄、被質疑「都係為錢」、「會唔會hea做？」
上述各項，可謂我對片段的宣洩，但同時是作為留港同工經過思考後的回應。
⏺前香港通識科主任張逸峯：官校逃亡潮一年流失4000老師，為何高薪厚職也https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W53zbueoCI
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點解冇仔女嘅留低被視為應該？點解人唔可以為自己打算？一定要壯烈犧牲先叫偉大？
Carlie
2022-06-21 11:00:20 +0000 UTC好似係集中營做獄卒咁，做得好唔好都係死。
Chris Chan
2022-06-20 18:55:39 +0000 UTC當係分工合作。因為走唔到嘅小朋友都仲有好多。
Jasmine Chu
2022-06-20 04:50:55 +0000 UTC呢位老師，比比皆是
Wai Man Wan
2022-06-20 04:29:44 +0000 UTC其實最近都多咗提同事諗後路，有冇仔女都好，都要計劃吓。😓
April Chan
2022-06-19 14:27:41 +0000 UTCLeave or stay is a personal choice. Politics is one reason, but another factor especially family requirements is a major consideration. Many yellow submarines (like me) have left, but many have chosen to stay. Alas, there are also those who do not have the same political view but have left HK. Personally, I would encourage them to leave for survival, but at the end of the day, it is personal circumstances that would dictate the ultimate decision. I could only wish them safety if they choose to stay.
Jon T
2022-06-19 13:53:21 +0000 UTC遺*棄
Ping Chen
2022-06-19 11:14:01 +0000 UTC完全同意。依家感覺就似二戰前德國準備送猶太人去集中營，明白事理既人就同週圍既人講唔快走就死得人，但唔聽講既人仲係度自我感覺良好咁話，你咁樣講傷害留低既人既心情。 作為教育工作者，應該要知道中共歷史，有錢人同知識分子係中共首要打擊既對像，唔走既話，係生命安全既問題。 連咁簡單既道理都唔明，真係害死自己害死人。
Chris Chan
2022-06-19 10:29:14 +0000 UTC自己走但叫人留低，咪又係將責任推俾其他人。 如果我走的話，就只會叫其他人保重，見勢色唔對都係要走。
Chris Chan
2022-06-19 10:25:07 +0000 UTC完全同意，下一代真係靠大人幫手，如果唔幫佢地離開香港，佢地就落入中共手上，呢個責任實在太大。照顧老人家呢點，唯有傾完之後令佢哋明白，再一齊走。
Chris Chan
2022-06-19 10:23:40 +0000 UTC中共一步步改寫香港歷史，就連香港是殖民地的歷史也容不下，在香港教書如果不教授謊言，就是要違反國安大法，要不是hea教，其實風險很高。但hea教又過不了自己的良心，那就要預備有學生督背脊而坐監嘅風險⋯ 繼續說下去，其實都是風險問題，但高風險一般要有不成比例的回報才值，那就要看個人了。有朋友為不成比例的高薪要子女身處風險中，有苦自己知。 沈教授不停提提大家「風險很高風險很高」，其實不容易，如果教授hea寫叫你留下來，你會感覺良好一點嗎？
Anthony Chui
2022-06-19 01:02:52 +0000 UTC離与留絕對是個人決定，我第一次是70 ’s離港是求知識，第二次是90‘s的89 民運後的移民潮，第三次10's是在大陸工作後認清楚 政權的本質。選擇後，別人怎麼看其實不重要！
Ken
2022-06-18 23:57:17 +0000 UTC我係將會離港嘅同工，身邊好多繼續留守嘅同事。各人有唔同處境，我好尊重佢哋，亦同佢哋講，若果冇仔女，死人都留低，坐住個位，因為一離開，就唔知畀乜嘢人補上。 我好好彩係小學，教小學生政治壓力冇咁大。就算教中國文化，講「做人要誠實」「做錯事要承擔責任」，唔好「指鹿為馬」，強調好多事情冇標準答案，要獨立思考，冇理由可以話我哋錯！
April Chan
2022-06-18 23:01:34 +0000 UTC個人覺得片段的確令決定留低嘅人有壓力，甚至難受。可是，我還是希望有小朋友而又係同路嘅老師，可以全數退場。 以下只係我個人意見。 如果不是小粉紅，家中無中三以下嘅小朋友，或無打算要小朋友嘅中年老師/任何人，選擇留低繼續事業，保持教育/行業水平，並與決定離開嘅同工各自爬山，我覺得係偉大嘅。 其他有小朋友、年青而熱愛自由嘅人，我真係真心覺得一定要走，無懸念。我甚至希望你哋可以全部走晒，為你生出來嘅仔女，為咗自由嘅空氣，可以似返個人(我意思係不需每日自我審查、白色恐怖)咁生活。如果哩兩個pull factors 都唔足夠拉你走，咁你真係要諗清楚點解，照顧年老父母當然係一個原因，明白，no comments，唯有希望老人家可以一齊走或旅居或體諒。但其他原因留低，我覺得都係唔理性。當然，哩個關乎我個人認同嘅倫理規範，簡單講每個人都係無選擇之下出生，因此我認為父母嘅責任(in some senses可能係彌補🤔)係給予家庭溫暖，及可以發展嘅空間與盡可能多嘅選擇。 所以，如果你為咗其他原因(不論係崇高嘅、銅臭嘅)而選擇放棄小朋友嘅成長，我只希望你可以三思。救人姑且唔係一命換一命，更枉論犧牲自己下一代？三思🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️ 無打算要下一代嘅手足，又肯犧牲自己嘅自由，留低繼續發聲、深耕細作，我覺得除咗虧欠，無其他。
Roy Yeung
2022-06-18 19:48:01 +0000 UTC要做Yellow submarine ，無奈要被誤解。Well, I just assume anyone (who is not pro government) who has decided to stay even tho they have the option to leave is a yellow submarine. Being misunderstood is part of the deal.
g_dot_helen
2022-06-18 18:33:15 +0000 UTC好抱歉同少少意外呢位網友睇完條片有咁嘅感受，可能我不在港( 講真如果我即使唔係一早移咗民，我都肯定忍受不到，忍到去年都已經離開咗!) 未能體會到佢嘅切身感受! 其實我覺得鼓唔鼓勵人離開香港，真係分別不大，如果真係忍受不到，而又稍為有啲辦法，根本不用人勸，自己都走咗。 我有個阿哥本來已經入咗美籍，但太太只係申請緊過嚟，可惜疫情阻滯咗好多，佢哋兩個去年已頂唔順，不再等美國了，阿嫂就申請BNO去年十月已去了英國，住落後都算快適應，而家我哥哥都喺英申請埋BNO. Anyway 我個point 係唔好理人地叫唔叫你走，根本每個人自己心中有自己嘅決定，但大家都必需互相尊重!
Wendy Lam
2022-06-18 16:59:34 +0000 UTC睇完訪問，有些難受，因為自問自己和身邊的同事都盡力在這環境中繼續下去，給學生灌輸正確(或正常）的價值觀。其實去或留都是個人選擇，不用分對或錯或我比其他人更有原則。
Ip Wai Yi
2022-06-18 16:49:52 +0000 UTC「堅離地」係無改錯名，教授成長背景本身都離哂地… 有啲野可能真係佢係唔會明… 教授應該係無意咁講.. 不過有啲野佢真係未必會明
Chris Chiu
2022-06-18 16:01:41 +0000 UTCNo matter whether one has a political axe to grind per se, I incline to the view that he should show more sympathy than judgement for like-minded folks within or beyond the long arm of dictatorship. As and when an axe blade of affliction falls, those still in dangerous zones can do very little. Meanwhile, those beyond the long arm reach should be more considerate of others in torment and show more compassion. “Leave” or “stay” is the net result of the interaction of personal and other factors. Some in the leave group don’t necessarily share the common values like others. Likewise, some exodus fundamentalists are fairly biased against the stay group where stay-behind are deemed to be “conformists” and are derided for greed, short-sightedness and naively counting on good fortune smiling on their lives under the HKNSL. In any circumstances, it’s unwise for either group to throw in unnecessary disputes and conflicts within their own circles. If we from either stay or leave adhere to this principle, it’s more likely to manage a longtime resistance in solidarity to a totalitarian regime. Hong Kong has fallen rapidly into economic decline and political decay and become completely ungovernable. To all appearances Beijing has no appetite for leaving little room in the middle ground, let alone for bringing the paranoid style of Chinese politics to a halt. A strong-minded person in a life whether it be in ups or downs shall cling to the unpalatable truth and his faith in humanity. To those who unwillingly choose to stay in a police city, their emotional distress can be far better eased through seeking solace and comfort in their belief than constantly giving groans of dismay over being slaves, aka the party chives, with no hope to pin on. A regime never fears all of its people. It only fears those, within or outside its territory, who believe in truth and have steadfast faith.
George
2022-06-18 16:00:33 +0000 UTC作為一個已離開咗香港好一段時間嘅我，我有時候都會感覺到好似有好多訪問都係以叫人離開嘅多，我明白依家時勢係艱難，要訪問牆內嘅人係非常困難，大家亦怕會被人發現….牆內嘅subscribers 經常睇住依d訪問亦會比較難受。或許依個平台慢慢都變得唔知點樣支援到牆內嘅朋友，可能依個亦唔係教授打算做嘅嘢，只不過天時地利人和下，教授訪問到好多已離開嘅人。 我其實有9成嘅朋友都選擇留底。希望留底嘅你知道，仲有好多人同你一樣一齊堅持著！多謝你向咁艱難嘅環境仍選擇留底，多謝你嘅一點點嘅堅持！
Vikki Wong
2022-06-18 15:32:38 +0000 UTC講親叫人走，就好似原罪咁，似離棄唔走既人。就算無講，都似怪責做乜唔走（完全係諗多左）。 實際上，言者無心 聽者有意，真係好無辜。
Chris Chan
2022-06-18 12:07:22 +0000 UTC
