Holding Space for the Lyrics of Real House

listening to real house for the first time looking out the window of a train at night...and yeah i am holding space for this

Jordan Rappoport

I think 16 by Eliza McLamb should be regulated like a weapon

Livia Abby

i feel like ariana and cynthia are both just so hangry emotional and have no emotional regulation

Maya Fielding

yesss i was hoping someone would say this, it tears me apart every time 😫

Kaitlyn T

that literally is my main goal for next year like it’s been wayyyyy too long but thinking about having to go through the process of finding a dentist and calling for an available appointment and going and on and on and onnnnn i just put it off some more🫣

Meredith Floyd

eliza i feel you on the parents being like sure we could let you stay on our health insurance until you are 26 but! we will not be!!! peace & love <3

Meredith Floyd

We create the beeps we think we deserve

Af

Omfg as a binchie in Alberta I second this! Like for the love of my sanity please give me more sunshine!! Vitamins D pills do not hit the same!!

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

I don’t think it’s that simple for someone to become Jewish if they aren’t Jewish ethnically

annabelle chapman

I REALLY did not enjoy Anora, the world building really did not feel robust to me and then hearing her say the F slur so many fucking times and having people laugh at that in the theater really pushed it over the edge for me. And finding out afterwards that it was written and directed by a (presumably) straight man just really put a bad taste in my mouth. I’m a dyke who is not comfortable using that word at ALL and we’re not really at a place in our culture to be mainstreaming that shit in such an unexamined way. Plus I’m also like…. All the strippers I have met are queer, lol obviously not everyone who dances is but it felt weird and it just really soured the movie for me.

Mar

girlies, have we thought about fibromyalgia?

Mad Green

i had a flip phone for 7 months of this year and it didn't help my internet addiction at all. i just got addicted to my laptop instead <3 i now periodically ask my man to hide my laptop from me until further notice and i deleted everything fun from my phone

car

they’re being so weird but it really is just giving HS seniors doing their last theatre show lmao

lauren baker

Hearing you talk about loving the cold weather is wild to me because I’m Canadian and would do anything for sunshine more than 2 months a year

Emily

adrianne lenker is the joan baez of our generation and i stand by that

elena

Binchies with 45 degree scoliosis rise up 🫣🤗🤗

Annie McQuesten

As a binchie with ehlers danlos syndrome… I can confirm that chronic pain is very much Fuck My Life. thank god for marijuana.

Sabrina Benchaabane

hey, mine is too! rooting for you - there is so much light 🌟

skybright

I am also a mid 20 yr old with chronic hip and back pain 😵‍💫 I am suffering with you gals

Haley

Not to be a parasocial butterfly but I also am suffering from the exact same hip labrum tear (and I’m the same age) as Julia!! hip warriors rise up!! Please keep us updated on your labrum journey queen

Isadora Renner

Me neither!

Lily Pearsall

Not sure if this happened to anyone else but this one didn’t load on my Apple Podcasts

Claudia Rodríguez

I went to the Adrienne lenker concert in Northampton ma (lesbian capital of the world) and it was just dead silent and people sniffling and sobbing. Glad u guys also had that spiritual experience

Ella McGeady

Listening to this post-Gav-colorblind reveal is sending me

Kamrin Baker

I need yall to discuss the wicked erewhon smoothie

Holly Draz

@Mak kit Ofc! I wouldnt want to listen to opinions from people who seem to pity my life either. Based on the podcast audio itself I didn't hear that level of disrespect... i think Julia said "so, have a horrible life?" And Eliza said "NOT to say that they have a horrible life"... so I think they were just doing stream of consciousness and talking really fast. Im pretty sure theyre not saying your life and community's life is shocking and horrible. But message me individually if you want to talk more, and we can get out of this comment section (NOT the best place to have a nuanced convo bc bitches hate nuance unfortunately)

T. Chau

I also think it can be hard to hear in this ep Eliza talking ab growing up poor and then coming into money shortly after becoming an adult bc for most of us, we don't really have the hope or expectation that we will ever not be poor and it's kind of assumed in her speech that is a natural progression to be poor and then not be at some point. I felt that a few weeks ago when they mentioned how they live in nyc so they dont have to worry about the cost of groceries going up and as someone who lives here and is feeling the price squeeze a lot it felt like a punch in the face a bit but i also think it's unhelpful to just only listen to people you can directly relate to. It really cuts out so much of the human experience and all its complexities to think like that imo...

mb

i really enjoyed wicked ! i also thought the press interviews were really intense (and strange tbh) bc i was only seeing the clips of them like sobbing, but after seeing the film and understanding the story for the first time i got it. i went back and watched full interviews and now i realllyyy get it. they’re honestly just women who are extremely proud of their dreams coming true and should be able to be emotional about it. THAT SAID as a recovering ed girlboss, ari needs help :(

phoenix russell

Literally just jumped to the comments to say this^^^ it's also v easy for them to adjust the boiler room temps and if its not comfy for you, it's not working for anyone else in the building either (most likely) make your landlord earn that rent money!!!

mb

so I did listen to real house on thanksgiving (my mom is dying) and sobbed uncontrollably! who could have seen that coming!

sfalz

hi so listened to real house for the first time bc of this now im going into work sobbing thanks!

Madelyn Shoemaker

seeing adrianne lenker in 2018 first year uni the weekend after being cheated on. with a gaggle of boys i sort of knew and we all cried through real love. also everyone at that show was so fucking tall it was awful.

Emma P

thank you for your thoughtful reply and personal insight!! if you wanted to elaborate, i’d be curious to hear more but no pressure if you’re not comfortable sharing. i am understanding of their lives growing and changing over the years. while i find comfort in the podcast, i listen to binchtopia for entertainment and i don’t need them to be relatable to me. but if the idea of my life and my community’s life is considered shocking and horrible on this podcast, then i just can’t gain anything from listening or connect to it anymore unfortunately.

Mak Kitt

also, instead of Godly Wives they’re called Promise Keeper Girls✨

Haleigh

Just Like Mine is my Real House

Jo Gowan

ofc 💕 and def heard re: monolith (esp considering i named only a small handful of black women who are all insanely rich lol). hope i didn’t sound insensitive, was just trying to add context. you’re right though, ariana gets more passes then almost anyone else would for similar

baby yaga

i appreciate you sharing so much knowledge about this cause i didn’t know that many details but it just really rubs me the wrong way as a black person that the pod kind of waves away racism from people they like and condemns it for people they don’t. i can appreciate that so many black women support ariana grande, but black women aren’t a monolith and some of us are gonna be upset by it. hope that makes sense and again thanks for the added nuance!

Indie

i think there’s more nuance here not to exhibit stan behavior bc there are many valid critiques But ,,, when people talk about her blackfishing they generally point to the thank u next era and i think part of that is like …. victoria monet and tayla parx wrote that whole album …she was spending 24/7 with them she brought them on the ell*n show lmao like at least sonically it’s bc black women wrote all the songs. there’s even a joke at the end of the song monopoly about nutty professor which victoria said was a lil joke about ariana not knowing black culture deep cuts,,,also brandy and monica, patti labelle, missy elliot, the list goes on; i think there is something to be said ab the company we keep and if so many black women artists have such nice things to say about her and she pays homage to them so often that should be part of the convo ! i don’t have shit to say about the tan though lmao 🫡

baby yaga

lots of blood and prosthetic dicks that get chomped off - plus the original off broadway cast recording is on spotify now

Haleigh

besties if you want a new musical that ppl have gotten off their ASSES to make - look into Teeth (based off the 2007 horror/comedy film)

Haleigh

Idk if this comment posted but my besties grandma gets free Kaiser healthcare because they killed her grandpa with medical malpractice so the settlement included free treatments 😗

Luteal Swan

Another Brevard queen in the chat 🙏🛐🙏

Alex

Brevard, NC mentioned!!📢📢📢📢📢📢‼️‼️‼️ Eliza, I too have undergone physical therapy amongst the geriatrics in Brevard

Alex

Also Eliza please please go to the Gyno you can go to planned parenthood and it’s very affordable

Luteal Swan

That’s so crazy to me. The withdrawals are literally some of the worst, they really said you’ve been pranked

Dóirind Davitt

No because if I was to be president of the world , i would stop them giving everyone gabapentin and making them suffer through literally such HORRORRSS

Dóirind Davitt

One of my besties also has the most horrible time coming off of gabapentin. I was about a year and a half coming off of it. They were also told by one of their doctors that they (the doctor) believed that gabapentin should not be prescribed. My doctor also told me that were I to stop my meds cold turkey that I could potentially seize and die 🙃. That definitely threw me for a loop.

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

so interesting; where i am gabapentin is suggested before all those other meds🙃 one of the worst set of withdrawal symptoms i’ve ever had second only to cymbalta. and they never tell you about that 😀

baby yaga

Indie

I felt so seen by the ailments discussion, I’m 27 and have had a dodgy back since age 19 due to not lifting heavy stuff with correct form. And then to top it off I’ve also been dealing with mysterious foot swelling and pain for almost 5 months now, that three different scans have been unable to diagnose … I will say that the two things that have made the biggest difference to my back issues are 1) doing my physio- prescribed core and glute exercises 3 times a week and 2) walking everywhere as much as I can (which is why the injured foot feels like god is tormenting me)

Vanja

@mak kitt It probably feels lonely if the voices you've found comforting for so so long start sounding different from you. Unlike traditional celebs, Podcasters can be more like ordinary people who talk to you like you're their friend. But we only see their publically presenting side and they dont know most of our names. And that's ok There have definitely been episodes where I've seen so seen and connected with these hosts, and also episodes where I felt like they did not. For example, I loved their "my year of decrepit solitude" ep but as a POC STEMstress I feel like they can lack perspective when they speculate about some things I'm very familiar with in my own life. I've grown to accept that the hosts are good people who are also young, middle class white women. They have said themselves that while they love sharing, they know they have very limited perspectives. And that is also okay. If you're like "why cant i relate to these people anymore when i used to" it's normal to feel confused or hurt. Especially if it's about lower/upper class stuff. If you remember that its ok for our hosts aka very friendly "strangers" who don't know our names, to change, then you may be able to enjoy the podcast more. Like you said, they're great people! Either way, your feelings are very natural and valid.... and I'm really glad you made this comment bc I feel like I've felt this way sometime too.

T. Chau

julias been a pelaton lover since day one. real ones know she used to go over to her aunts place in la to use it. this isn’t new

Annip

Hi I’m a laberal tear survivor!! I had surgery for it on my hip this past summer and it wasn’t terrible but def not fun lol. I have hEDS so that’s what caused my tear and complicated my recovery slightly

Ellie Chang

i am as i’ve been finding myself surprised at how much i can’t relate anymore and i was wondering if any other listeners felt the same. i didn’t have any hateful opinions of them, just shocked. they still seem like great people, just didn’t expect to be feeling such a class divide.

Mak Kitt

feel free to unsubscribe to the podcast

annabelle chapman

u have a legal right to a hot apt in NYC! even if it's old! call 411 if your super is being evasive. We have the best tenants rights in the country!

Mo Wilson

I mean no hate, I was just genuinely so surprised to hear Julia is a pelaton user. I feel like I officially cannot relate to these girls anymore after 3 years of avid listening. I also work at a coffee shop with no light of a higher job in my future and I don’t think it’s a horrible life. I don’t think working corporate is reaching a higher potential for myself, I believe I find that outside of working for a company.

Mak Kitt

i have a laboral tear and it's THE WORST !!

Georgia B

literallyyyyyy let it be known i quoted it to my therapist once

saiju

wait I got stuck on a ride at Harry Potter world too hahahaha

Mads

Ok but how do you think we got there. It’s a religion — you can be culturally Jewish for sure or ethnicity ashkenazi but anyone of any ethnicity can be Jewish. Just like Muslim and Arab not being the same thing.

Kierra Sewell

it’s dangerous to create an ethno-state out of it but judaism is an ethnicity

annabelle chapman

didnt they plant a field of tulips and build a whole university for the movie?

annabelle chapman

read the news 🫶🏻

Kierra Sewell

We need a thanksgiving episode that talks about the history of it, how Canadians are adamant they had “the first” thanksgiving, to the real history of it, to the food, all the way up to people being trampled at the mall, to cyber Monday and the thanksgiving day parades lol

avvsies

My partner and I were incredibly lucky and recently moved into a nyc apartment with a backyard. It’s been life changing. I can literally feel my nervous system decompress by being able to sit outside in the quiet and not have to worry about anything.

Stacey D

Ok the wicked movie has been weirding me out since the first trailer! There’s just sooo much CGI (which has become more common in movies because the folks who do those effects aren’t unionized) and it’s presented with the gravity of a WW2 drama. It’s…. Wicked. Great musical! Calm down like, a little.

Bags Gray

google is your friend 💞

KE

US health care system is soo scary wtf

Neve

My mum has to give her cats gabapentin (idk how to spell it) before taking them to the vet

giulia cilenti

I just fell over while listening ☹️

giulia cilenti

Omg yay! Great to know!

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

re wicked press tour: as a theatre girlie (non actor but i work with them) im feeling as though musical theatre people are just like that all the time 😭

Lauren Garanzuay

they actually just confirmed they were paid the same !!

Lauren Garanzuay

But being jewish IS an ethnicity

Anissa H

Playing Real House as the opener is diabolical 😭

helenaxofficial

Discomfort > pain is so real. My bf and I are always debating who has the higher pain tolerance. I know that mine is higher but as a life long IBS man he does not understand how are a tummy ache can take me out but breaking my toe is fine

Alittlejaybird

Okay RE the Wicked discussion- the salary discrepancy between Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo! Positively criminal!

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

Eliza making me feel SO seen with not going to the dentist 🥲I'm just a girl

Sarah Rasmussen

Oh girl, no fuss- I love a long response haha, give me all the information! I did not know about how gabapentin is seen elsewhere in the world, I'm in Canada. I was put on it because it was kinda the hot new thing, and both my doctor and I were pretty much out of options. I was literally just told a base dose to start at and to take another pill whenever I needed one! 🙃 I was definitely not given proper instruction or explanation or even small enough doses to increase with, only 300mg capsules (I'm on 11 of those in divided doses throughout the day). At one point when I was doing better my doc and I did see if I could come down off the high dose and I went down by only 100mg, and kept waiting for withdrawals to subside. They did not, and at the end of 4 weeks I woke up wanting to yeet myself off the mortal coil, so I called my mom. I never thought about the withdrawals in the context of addiction, but it makes total sense. I thought it was my own super sensitive body and nervousness system. I'm still so frustrated that I'm on so much medication for what could be the rest of my life, but it does make it so I am able to function through my pain. Chronic illness and disability is such a trip in our modern world!

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

THIRTY THOUSAND

Lilly Souter

I think we give Ariana too much grace for the blackfishing.. like you cannot seriously use her traumas as an excuse for blackfishing 😭

Junny

I’m holding space for 16 by Eliza mclamb

Nettie Adams

Also seeing live music at kings theatre is unlike anything else

Kierra Sewell

I’ve tried to see Adrienne lender twice now and keep moving before the show 😢

josh caine-welch

Ok I’m only two minutes into the ep but girl it’s also dangerous to make Judaism an ethnicity 🥴

Kierra Sewell

YESS exactly!! omg the rock in the shoe to top it off

Lily Ana Verna

omg i am truly the worst version of myself when i’m too hot, my hair is in my face, airpods are falling out, and bag keeps slipping off my shoulder. add a little rock in my shoe and i’m on the verge of homicide lmao

Abbey W

I saw adrianne in durham, nc last week, she’s truly not of this earth

Allison Clark

i don’t remember when i got my first ones but i think i was a teenager too! now i have a little patch towards the front on my right side and mannnyyyy throughout my hair, i just think they’re so cute! love seeing them on other women too

Abbey W

16 belongs in the same weaponry vault as real house

kerrie

My real house moment was hearing lena grove live…

Maddy Wiseman

I have countless horror stories with Kaiser as someone with Crohn’s disease. They’re all over the west coast unfortunately and it seems to be industry knowledge that they’re awful to work with. I truly think that being so terrible to deal with is part of their business model which is absolutely sinister 😡 nothing is more radicalizing than having chronic health problems and your ONLY OPTION is to rely on privatized healthcare. don’t even get me started on public healthcare, which even in Washington is less than adequate. TLDR: Kaiser is absolutely sinister and America needs a different model of healthcare.

Taylor Olson

I'm literally howling at the pre-insurrection requirements

Lily Ana Verna

i’m pretty sure butterbeer beer is just cream soda 😭

emily c

Omg queen no I did not mean to scare you. It’s just not used so commonly where I’ve studied (Ireland and Aus) because of its side effects, weaning protocols being so strict bc it’s dangerous if not done correctly, it’s effect on mental health, the long term use needing larger doses and it being addictive. It’s not a first line treatment for pain in my experience because of all that kind of stuff and prescribers tend to lean towards lyrica /pregabalin, tramadol etc. and go for gabapentin if nothing at all is working as it’s considered more of a “high risk” medication. It wouldn’t be what we here would consider a “conventional” medication for nerve pain relief but it is very effective. If it works for you instead of alternate routes then it’s totally safe depending on your experiences. I can’t even imagine what living with chronic pain must be like, sending all my healing thoughts to you girl. (So sorry this is so long)

Dóirind Davitt

Yesss! I have scoliosis and a bulging disc/sciatica injury and the only thing that has helped my pain consistently is strengthening my core, everything else is just temporary pain relief 🥲 it makes such a huge difference having the strength to keep a better posture

Junny

Feeling really seen as someone who was recently told by a medical professional that my back and hip pain is due to my weak core 😭

Annie MacKillican

Have yet to listen to the ep, but I thought it was just me thinking she looked unwell! I hope she gets help soon, it's very frightening to see her or anyone look so skeletal!

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

As a binchie who is on a fuck ton of gabapentin for chronic pain ive had all my life, why do cry a little....? Should I be frightened?

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

my worst form of discomfort/overstimulation is when you're walking in from the store carrying like 35 SMALL things and don't have them in a bag Like wearing a heavy coat and you're both too hot and too cold, tote bag slipping down, airpods falling out, two drinks and three snack wrappers in your hand, wallet and keys and several papers and other random items mashed between your fingers, and then you have to find the right key to open the door ... I could actually murder someone in that state oop

Lily Ana Verna

the vicious cycle with health anxiety is SOOO real omg I have when my anxiety makes me nauseous and then I get even more stressed about being nauseous and then I'm literally hyperventilating and ripping my hair out hehe !!

Lily Ana Verna

Re:Adrienne lenker concert in Brooklyn. I was supposed to go to that with my ex bestie (RIP) and was trying not to feel too bad about it but I genuinely had to skip that section it was too horrible to hear that it was lovely and amazing 🤧 also experiencing seasonal dysphoria for the first time in years since leaving Brooklyn for the south… rip again.

Chance Al-Hajji

Girlies, you must STRENGTH TRAIN. Your back and hips will thank you. Find a PT who does more than does e-stim and table exercises.

Elizabeth Riddett

In the spirit of complaining, I have chronic endometriosis and mobility issues as a result of it. They recently found I also have adenomyosis AND I have a herniated disc and a double pinched nerve in my back. All I do is suffer

Casey

Take 5 with Zan Rowe has a really beautiful ep with Adrianne Lenker 🫶🫶 worth a watch

Emily

Julia, I am getting surgery for a torn labrum in January, so we are twin-spirit 20-somethings going on 80! 🙃

Sexy Lexy

Saw a tweet that said that liberal Jan 6th would start with a land acknowledgement

Cristina Shaffer

God I heard real house for the first time live a few months ago before it came out and I was absolutely NOT PREPARED and then avoided listening to the entire record when it came out

Amanda

re: harry potter world, my family had season passes one year, shortly after the diagon alley expansion opened. i was in the gringotts bank ride line with my brother and my dad, who noticed the clearly jewish coded goblins running the bank, pointed to one, and said ‘haha that one looks like grandpa’

rachel

Ive had greys since 14 and i LOVE EM

Megan

We do create our own beeping fr- signed tinnitus

Megan

stim is a band aid for real it’s like advil

Emily Hirsch

I’m like screaming through the phone want to help u

Emily Hirsch

WE ALL GOT WEAK GLUTES 💓💓💓💓💓💓 love your favorite physical therapist binchie love u girl

Emily Hirsch

People who sit quietly do exist and I’ll tell you how- having to take long car rides often and getting violently car sick from looking at literally anything before iPods were invented

Kirsten

this whole time i thought julien baker and adrienne lenker were one person. their names sound the same to me.

Emily

Agree that it’s devastating to see Ariana Grande wasting away from anorexia, and how she’s said she feels she is the healthiest she’s ever been and doesn’t want people commenting on her body. I’m in recovery now, but when I was sick, I also was in denial and thought I was fit & healthy. Someone commenting on my body is what finally pushed me to recover! My gf at the time who voiced their concern and I finally listened. I hope that happens to her too.

Skyler Morgan Gauthier

just saw adrianne in toronto and can verify real house live was life altering 😌

tessa whiteley

as a 28 year old with MANY gray/silver hairs i do not tolerate the slander!! i like mine 😌

Abbey W

me and all my friends sobbed the entire adrianne lenker concert. she opened with not a lot just forever and i immediately started crying

Rachel Dion

nooooooo i paused the episode to go listen to real horse and now i’m crying and shaking in my bed like a child!

kaia

Labrum tear troop hobble together! I quit by college sport because of it this year but yea, I feel you Julia ! It escalated to me getting a steroid shot which helped but didn’t heal anything. I’m doing Pilates now and finally feel like I can let go of the athletic ego I’ve developed from years of competitive sports so all is well in the end!

Toma Kobozeva

BREVARD MENTIONED RAAHHHH🦅🦅🦅

Rachel Elrod

1. Everytime I hear you guys mention gabapentin the future pharmacist in me cries a little 2. On the topic of discomfort: itching. I would rather break a bone than deal with uncontrollable itching. I won’t elaborate on the cause of said itching because I don’t wanna give Julia another health thing to be scared of. 3. Listened to real house and now my contacts are STINGINGGGG

Dóirind Davitt

As a Canadian the health insurance stuff was like you guys started speaking a different language

Allyn (uh-lyn)

I really cannot take that gay ass music seriously … needs drums to make an emotional impact I fear

Your Mum

FUCK the little NODES my report said they couldn’t get a good reading because I was fat and crying and so now I’m not paying the bill

Charlie Wright

were any binchies at the workshop 13 Adrienne Lenker show in MA??

tansy

real house so real 😭😭😭

summer

Holding space for this

Meg K

Canada celebrates Thanksgiving in October. America need to adopt this.

Josh F

the thought of hearing mythological beauty live brings a tear to my eye

Mary

libs would say its ableist to storm the capital bc not everyone can climb

Hannah

Just listened to real house and weeped a little tysm

Hannah

and now im not allowed to have ibuprofen anymore. because of WOKE.

Sumaiya Fazal

omg one time i gave myself gastritis because i was losing it over my scholarship applications 😭

Sumaiya Fazal

Chronic pain binchy feeling very seen. PT with electrical stim and constant discomfort for 10 years ✌️

Wynn Phillips

Wait, Eliza was in Ohio?

Diana Sarah

julia we have the same ailment 🫶🏽

Lauren Patel

I am actively having bad healthy anxiety because of bad neck and back pain, and I'm 25!! This made me feel better 🙏

alyssa

As a person in queer media this title really spoke to me

Liv Tambrini

Mama a real house behind u

Olivia Smith

Queens of perfect timing. Maybe I … won’t spiral today

Court Knee

This title is way too close and personal to me

Hannah Mitchell

screaming at this title after seeing adrianne lenker last night

Hannah Ward