The Best (and worst) Independent Politicians
Added 2025-03-04 04:42:48 +0000 UTC[Early Access]
Hello Patrons,
For your early video this week we've got one that is purely focused on independent politicians. For those of you who have been watching the patreon releases over the last few weeks it shouldn't come as a surprise that we'll be talking about this a LOT in the leadup to the election.
There's been a lot of calls for "smashing the duopoly" and hailing independent politicians as saviours. This video goes beyond just the slogans and looks at why they're getting this glowing reputation. However, it may come as a shock but we also spend a lot of time talking about independents that we DO actually like as well.
Let us know what you think about this one, we're planning to put it out at the end of the week. Keep your eyes peeled before that for a video suggestion thread. Now that we're back expect to see a lot more content and ways for your voices to be heard on Patreon.
Thank you for your support and welcome to all the new patrons!
The FJ Crew
Comments
Jordies, it seems like labor votes are inevitable going to be split. Would it be a good idea to fill the senate with truely independent (from the majors) independents/small parties to keep checks on power? Seems like they would back labor’s commonsense policies anyway and keep the liberals and greens honest
Andrew Binning
2025-04-03 02:50:48 +0000 UTCI always thought the minority government under Gillard was one of the best governments this country has had - it led to things like Gonski, Clean Energy bIll, NDIS, child abuse commission, paid parental leave. It bears out in the data too if you look at the # of bills passed per year on the APH website that government was right up there. She was a great negotiator and the need to negotiate in good faith with the Greens meant that neither they or Labor got 100% of everything they wanted, which is how politics is supposed to work - by compromising. So if the choice in a safe liberal seat is having your vote go nowhere with Labor or backing a central-right attack from a teal independent, its very much a 'lesser of two evils' situation - but a minority government where Albo is forced to negotiate with Greens OR teals for confidence/supply isn't the worst outcome in the world. Teals at least have demonstrated a willingness to compromise by separating from hard liberal lines anyway, while Greens (as you point out) tend to be their own worst enemy and let perfect be the enemy of good with a lot of their policies. Great video!
Ben Beasley
2025-03-08 00:09:03 +0000 UTCI have heard time and time again, from close relatives, to my mates from high school, even the people who come into my work, that "liberal and labor are the same". Luckily it's public to see what they vote against/for.
aquaticlizard
2025-03-07 13:01:52 +0000 UTCI don't even know who to vote for anymore XD
SnowFlakes882
2025-03-07 03:52:23 +0000 UTCFiona Patten is incredible. Thanks for giving her a shout out. If anyone has the financial means, definitely worth chipping in to help the Legalise Cannabis Party campaign.
Big Mac
2025-03-06 23:19:28 +0000 UTCI was wondering when you were going to tackle that juice media video. Good on ya
Noah
2025-03-06 17:20:00 +0000 UTCJeremy Buckingham is a legend one of the reasons we now have industrial manslaughter laws in NSW now
Samual Smith
2025-03-06 14:07:11 +0000 UTC3:38 that image is 100% AI generated. here's the highlights: • pseudo-3D shading • oversaturation of colours • uneven points on the stars • completely fucked up union jack • weirdly wobbly and inconsistent lines on the top & bottom of the crest they probs just asked some pimply intern to do it 😭💀
GlassRoo
2025-03-05 23:49:12 +0000 UTCThis video is great. I live in Bradfield and I’m expected to vote for Nicolette. She is one of the worst people imaginable to be running. It’s an electorate where Labor has a genuine chance of winning and her existence is to cannibalise the Greens and Labor vote, along with all the other teals running in liberal seats. I genuinely believed the Greens would’ve ousted Frydenberg in 2022. Nicolette put out a video on her socials where she made fun of a supporter by taking her video out of context, without credit and made fun of her by being disabled. The creator reached out to her and while she took it down she refused to explain anything or apologise.
Lizbian Solipsism
2025-03-05 12:32:30 +0000 UTCI mean I agree Jordies, but given all the (Lib lite) Teals you just called out are competing against the Libs in seats where the ALP are uncompetitive around 6:30min mark, it's unclear how the promoting those independents works against the ALP. The main issue is as you point out the overall disparagement and lack of credit they give the ALP to the ALP's wider brand and appeal in seats where they compete with the Libs. However I am not sure if "independent media" actually errodes the ALP on 2PP. I guess your point is they just errode general support and the primary vote of the ALP with that narrative, which makes it harder for them. Thing is, does that outer suburban voter actually want to listen to a narrative that appears "partisan" towards major parties (perceived to be insider incumbents) and isn't disparaging and apathetic to the entire political process? I suspect in part it is audience capture. Independent media providers are just feeding back to their audience what their audience already believe, which is a false equivalency that because the ALP is party that occasionally wins government, then somehow they are to blame for the vast majority of political issues. This is a problem faced by parties of government - you are held responsible for failings of "the government" even when you are not in office or all the alternatives (real or otherwise) are worse.
Jesse
2025-03-05 04:24:27 +0000 UTCLove how Jordies is just Coffeezilla but for AUS politics with the "I used to respected Jordies journalism until he catch me doing something shady"
Dob WoLF
2025-03-05 02:12:48 +0000 UTCMcNamara - not a vote against ALP (will get 2nd pref) but a vote against my direct representative who fully supports Israel's actions
Ian Kidston
2025-03-05 01:31:16 +0000 UTCIt needs to happen soon given the election will be called real soon.
Alex Isaac
2025-03-05 01:28:03 +0000 UTC2019? A cameo
Alex Isaac
2025-03-05 01:27:31 +0000 UTCYou must be in an inner city electorate. But voting because of a war overseas that Labor doesn't support and has said so multiple times, (they want a two state system and voted against Israel in the u.n). You're literally ignoring all the real issues that affect your kids and grandkids. At least vote Labor 2.
Alex Isaac
2025-03-05 01:27:17 +0000 UTCI'm so happy to finally hear Fiona Patten being mentioned on Friendlyjordies, been a big fan of her for 15+ years now!
diabz live!
2025-03-04 13:06:58 +0000 UTCI call Juice Media "dumb cunt zoomers producing Murdoch propaganda for dumb cunt zoomers"
diabz live!
2025-03-04 13:05:58 +0000 UTCRelease this soon while electoral reform is still on everyone’s minds.
Fever62
2025-03-04 11:07:32 +0000 UTCbased and red pilled
Ahmad Mostamandi
2025-03-04 09:23:46 +0000 UTCCloser than than two Poles in an all Polish gay porno
Nicholas Crayford
2025-03-04 08:58:09 +0000 UTCI vote Labor first then weed party second.It’s a versatile crop man. Just like I bet $100 Labor majority win.Two days later I bet $50 on same bet. It went down to $13 .I’m influencing the outcome of this most important election.
Al Goormay
2025-03-04 08:32:33 +0000 UTCActually? What did he do with them? Is it still online?
neonoodle
2025-03-04 08:16:15 +0000 UTCWhen are you pumping these videos out on YouTube ?
Luca Orlando
2025-03-04 06:54:44 +0000 UTCFinally someone is calling Juice Media for there bullshit, its funny because no one in the Aus Political space on Youtube has had the balls to talk about how Juice Media is basicly the modern media landscape but on Youtube. There isn't any diffrence between Juice Media and The ABC except that Jucie Media lies about how there fighting for the "Everyday Worker" when there obviously not because there telling you to go vote for people that voted against Labor's workers reforms.
Silver
2025-03-04 06:15:08 +0000 UTCPersonally, I would still independently support some of the Victorian Teals. This year will be the first time ever that I do not vote for labor as I cannot support an individual who is fine with how Israel is acting. Will hold my nose and vote Green (Agree 100% with FJ's assessment). Given the narrow margins on first prefs last time, might well see the Greens candidate get up
Ian Kidston
2025-03-04 06:05:43 +0000 UTCWhere's this sit-down with Jeremy?
Alex Isaac
2025-03-04 06:00:22 +0000 UTCYep. And jordies was involved with them in the past too.
Alex Isaac
2025-03-04 05:56:19 +0000 UTCExcept if Labor gets voted in then the party of workers will do more for the workers...
Alex Isaac
2025-03-04 05:55:59 +0000 UTCObviously but the problem that follows with this is what happens if Climate 200 goes away? Who's the Teals sugar daddy after that? At least with the majors you've got some inertia against influence but that doesn't exist with independents, they're leaves on the breeze of whomever funds their campaign. Which was why the electoral funding reforms were so important for the supposed independence of independents and why the Teals fought it so hard, they weren't independent.
Adrian Lyons
2025-03-04 05:46:45 +0000 UTCMostly accurate but, and it is a big but, the reason I support and donate to Climate 200 is that a Lib Lite is still better than a Lib. Not my electorates, but given the choice between Monique Ryan and Josh Frydenberg or Zoe Daniel and Tim Wilson, I for one am happy to contribute to keep "Not a Victorian, Just another Liberal" out of parliament
Ian Kidston
2025-03-04 05:39:15 +0000 UTCDude, holy kino, my dad is heavy into Juice Media, need this one on public YouTube asap to try and break the propaganda
neonoodle
2025-03-04 05:32:52 +0000 UTCRalph Babet looks like if you open up his head there's nothing but custard
Dan S
2025-03-04 05:19:04 +0000 UTCGreat video. I was hoping Helen Haines would be mentioned somewhere as she’s been my local independent for the last few years, but I’m a little off her considering she didn’t send me a 2025 fridge magnet calendar.
Luke McClounan
2025-03-04 05:14:54 +0000 UTCHey FJ. Off topic, but have you guys ever had, or plan to have a show in the Shoalhaven?
julie-anne brett
2025-03-04 05:09:57 +0000 UTCMad cunt
Noah English
2025-03-04 05:04:26 +0000 UTC
