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Ep. 773 - The Fall Guy

David, Devindra, and Jeff bite into their thoughts on Unfrosted, use the force to review Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace, and taste test the new series Sugar. Then they tumble through their review of The Fall Guy.

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Weekly Plugs 
David - Decoding Everything: BJ Colangelo’s Review of The Fall Guy
Devindra - Rabbit R1 review at Engadget + Engadget Podcast
Jeff - DLC 546 with Max Neal

Shownotes (All timestamps are approximate only)   
What we've been watching (~00:14:30)
David - Unfrosted, The Contestant, The Greatest Roast of All Time: Tom Brady
Devindra - Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace, Evil Does Not Exist, I Saw the TV Glow
Jeff - Sugar, Hacks Season 3

Featured Review (~01:10:37)    
The Fall Guy
SPOILERS (~01:22:29)

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Ep. 773 - The Fall Guy

Comments

For shows that have a big shift partway through, I'm shocked that Devindra didn't bring up The Nevers!

Jonathan

Atomic Blonde rules SO HARD. I need to watch that now!

toeknee

Get over yourselves, they’re fun!

toeknee

I’m sorry but they wrong about Episode wan. That movie rules and their super parasitic hypercritical brains don’t allow them from enjoying such a delightful romp of a movie. It’s entertaining, there’s a lot to appreciate, and it still resonates with people today. They’re on the wrong side of history lol. Also Jerry S. Is right about the industry. They backed up the wrong Woke brigade and now Hollywood is literally imploding because of it. No one cares about making inclusivity a selling point, they just want to be entertained as the world crumbles around them.

toeknee

Was the movie in the movie supposed to be good or bad? The Fall Guy tries to play it both ways so hard.

Aaron Pinkston

I was counting down the hours between episodes airing! Not having any form of closure for Kevin or Nora would’ve driven me mad. And doesn’t Jeff love Carrie Coon?! I figured the ENTIRETY of this series was a significant reason why…

Michael Prescesky

I actually thought Ep 3 was a pretty good sit(h). But I agree the first two were dull as dishwater.

Peter Tribe

All three of those prequels were terribly dull. They're all bad movies, but I guess the one thing you can say about TPM is there's that Darth Maul fight set to Duel of the Fates as the lone interesting thing in that whole trilogy, but that's only like 5-10 minutes of screen time. But I agree, I can't imagine paying to sit through any of those in a theater again.

Stranger2Reality

Gollum was also facial mocap which was the real game changer.

Mountain of Conflict

Right?! And the last season is only 8 episodes.

Mountain of Conflict

It's more problematic because it doesn't matter. Who counts his age and wants a realistic timeline. No one should give a shit.

Mountain of Conflict

Why anyone would pay money to see The Phantom Menace again is beyond me. That movie is just boring.

Peter Tribe

Same. I’m totally with Jeff on Sugar and Dave’s review baffled me. Colin Farrell is incredible.

Peter Tribe

Dave not liking Sugar is crazy to me. The show is awesome and I can’t picture anyone not enjoying it.

Wil Johnson

I loved the comedy and romance but I’m quietly amazed that you guys were fans of the action. It was so over edited, I was desperate for some Wickian long takes. And the action, so much of it was just “go in a straight line/flail about until the end”, from the driving the dump truck to the boats and the guns to the helicopter just hovering above the nondescript dirt mounds for so long I had to ask my date “what’s wrong with the pilot?”. This was the sorta action that in the 90s was choosing Hong Kong to “homage”, in ways that felt weightless and meaningless because they had actors that couldn’t pull it off (as shown in the credits, it was 95% faceless stunties, which hooray but also cast them as your leads next time!). And Gosling felt like he had a fraction of Keanu’s training regimen when it came to portraying his character’s skill set. All that to say, totally agree. A light and playful and frothy movie to recommend to anyone. Except those who maybe want a shot in the action to last more than 7 seconds x

Kess Broekman-Dattner

Also, he was wrong about crediting TPM and Jar Jar as the original film with a fully CG character that led to Gollum, as those had been in movies for a few years before this. Probably the first major film with fully CG characters was Mortal Kombat back in 1995, 4 years before TPM, though there of course had been plenty of onscreen CG effects years before that. If TPM really blazed any trails, effects-wise, it was more with the fully CG sets/backgrounds, although this is a dubious trail to blaze, as IMO it's tantamount to extremely lazy filmmaking and just makes movies look super cheap. Nothing looks as good if it's entirely filmed on sets, especially if those sets are a just a bunch of green screens.

Stranger2Reality

Yeah, the guys do this occasionally where they all seem to miss something which was pretty explicitly laid out in the film and then they are all confused by this. I know they go to the bathroom sometimes or maybe are taking notes and miss things, but it is weird when this happens and they end up debating something which was super obvious in the film.

Stranger2Reality

We all get distracted or go to the bathroom or something but this really was mentioned multiple times throughout the movie, and then paid off at the end. And the Emily Blunt character recognized the stunt in the newscast video.

Hank Patton

every time Devindra pronounces Gollum as “Golem” i die a little inside.

BH

Totally with with you on all your points. I'm glad I'm not the only one that felt that way. I felt like I was taking crazy pills after all three guys gushed over this film.

Ben Wesorick

Completely agree with you guys. I am floored that Dave wasn't more critical about this one. see my review below.

Zion Brock

You are not alone LOL See my review below

Zion Brock

An awful tribute to Stuntmen and Stuntwoman. Hear me out. I haven't been to a movie in about a year (even tho I pay for the AMC A-List every month... doh!) And I was so excited about seeing The Fall Guy after the unanimous praise from all all three of my fav movie reviewers. 1. For a movie about a “real stunt man” subjected to a crime and having to “really fight”, the film missed an amazing opportunity to create a realism to the fighting by forfeiting all the stakes of a fight. Countless times the protagonist gets massively wounded in a fight, only to jump up and run to the next encounter, with only a few scuff marks and a dirty shirt. All tension is totally lost as the fights progress, because none of it matters. I know the film is trying to applaud the stunt personnel of the film world, and shine light on this art. And for that I truly appreciate its motive. However I actually felt like it made joke out of stunt art by barely allowing any consequences to each fight. 2. The romance was unbelievably boring and didn't connect for me at all, even tho it uses premium actors (Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt). I blame this on the writing more than the acting. I usually love lots of dialogue in action movies, because of the character development. And this film took the time to allow the actors to talk about their relationship issues for long periods of time. But something was rotten in how came through, and I can’t put my finger on it. The conversation was so staged and canned. Never once did I feel like the characters were actually exploring their relationship using words real people would use. 3. There was very little comedy in this film, even tho you could tell it was trying. I never heard anyone laugh in the audience. Perhaps a snicker here and there. But this movie should have leaned on comedy if it's action was going to be so over the top and ridiculous. Ryan Gosling can be hilarious, but he's given very little to work with. And the bits of comedy the movie did have (dog biting the crotch of the bad guy at command) was used over and over again, and was predictable as hell. Emily Blunt never got any funny lines. The lack of anything remotely funny was such a missed opportunity for a film that had a somewhat light tone. Listen, I truly love romantic action comedy type movies, and thought this was going to be my JAM. But alas, there was no jam. I was extremely disappointed in my first time back to the cinema in a long time. I’d give it about a 55 out of 100.

Zion Brock

That’s a great call. What a wild show, every season. If someone says they knew what they’d be watching by the end, they’re lying. (Sure, I have my quibbles, blah blah… )

Michael Prescesky

Also “the dog” davindra? NO! It’s JEAN CLAUDE! cmon man put some respect on “bloodsport’s” name.

Reynaldo K. Cruz

On a more positive note, saw “fall guy” today and will be recommending it to anyone I have a chat with.

Reynaldo K. Cruz

Search Party Jeff, Search Party. That fulfills the dream.

Bram Welch

Dave and Patrick Klepek discuss Baby Reindeer in the latest episode of Decoding TV

David

Looks like the Miami Vice Stunt Show at Universal Studios Hollywood closed in January 1995. Ryan Gosling would've been 14 the year it closed 😆 that said... it was a fun gag in the flick

Rick C

You beat me to it. I was going to say, I remember him mentioning that it was the stunt show in the movie.

Sarah Rosenberg

I have been loving sugar, even though the "twist" is there the whole time if you see the show but love the style of the show the noirness of it

Iker Maruri

Devindra: “I wanted to see The Fall Guy a second time” Also Devindra: “I already saw The Fall Guy, I wanted to do something else with my time.” Seconds apart!

Cameron Stewart

The mere notion of peacing out halfway through the final season of The Leftovers boggles my mind—talk about letting the mystery be!

Michael Prescesky

The Miami Vice jacket was definitely from the stunt show at Universal Studios. He says a couple times in the movie that he did the exploding boat stunt there three times a day, six days a week, and could do it backwards. The timing of the show doesn't line up, as Devindra said, because they replaced that show with a Waterworld stunt show (which is still running), but I remember going to the Miami Vice stunt show a couple times as a kid.

Stranger2Reality

I came out of watching The Fall Guy saying, “Well, that sucked” followed by “Am I out of touch?”

Armi

Ok Jeff has to watch Unfrosted now 😂

Gareth

I don't think that people who hated the prequels really came around on them, I think it's just that when they came out, all the adult fans of the OT hated the prequels because they were so bad, but young kids who didn't know any better loved them and have since grown up and are now blinded by nostalgia for them. That's not the first time something like that happened either. I remember when Hook and Back to the Future 2 came out, the overwhelming consensus about both movies was that they were pretty awful. But then fast forward about 15 years and all these people who saw them when they were little kids with questionable taste grew up loving them and were never able to separate their nostalgia for those movies. Slowly the perception of those movies changed, and now those of us who were old enough to remember how hated they were at the time are largely forgotten as they became beloved films. I could see this same thing happening with the prequels years ago, as the 5-10 year olds who were too young to know any better grew up with great fondness for these movies that the rest of the viewing public hated. Every group behind them also now grows up watching and loving the prequels, while those of us who were old enough to realize how bad they were without nostalgia clouding our judgement have become older and fewer. You could see with the recent Star Wars shows that nowadays the fan base is more into the prequels than they are into the OT. This was especially evident in Obi Wan as they threw aside the idea that he and Vader hadn't seen each other in decades in favor of seeing Ewan McGregor and full Darth Vader have some more encounters. It is what it is, and that's why the perception of the prequels has changed. It'll happen with some other movies that adults hated on their release, but which little kids grow up watching and you'll get to see this unfold from the other side.

Stranger2Reality

Agreed completely. That's one of the best shows I've seen in years.

Stranger2Reality

I have always been a prequel defender and it’s been a grim row to hoe. Yes, there are lots of problems. But there were lots of problems with the OT as well. I’m not going to go into my whole diatribe. I’m just glad to hear that people are coming around to some extent. Especially people who have long been vocal opponents.

Brad Arnold

Jeff, Since you’re enjoying Sugar, and if you haven’t read it previously, you might like to check out SciFi author Larry Niven’s short story, “The Meddler.” It’s in his short story collection, “Convergent Series.” Some very interesting parallels.

Clifford Robinson

Really hoping that Baby Reindeer is discussed at some point. That series deserves its own After Dark.

Garry L

Interesting Filmcast-Episode for me. The Fall Guy wasn't my taste, but I had a lot of fun with Unfrosted. Well, sometimes it's like that and it's okay 😉

Marc Sontowski

I think all the Fall Guy TV show fans DID go to see it.

David Esposito

I'd love to hear the gang's thoughts on another limited Netflix live series, John Mulaney's Everybody's in Los Angeles, which is brilliantly strange!

Matthew Henshaw

The most fascinating element of the prequels is the desperate attempts to rehabilitate them. They were and remain bad movies with bad writing, bad characters, bad pacing, and overused CGI with a FEW good ideas, some good music, and TERRIBLE lightsaber fights aside from the maul fight.

Reynaldo K. Cruz

I didn't hate it but the romance angle wore thin for me, talking about the movie they are making as a metaphor for themselves like 3 separate times in extended scenes, it felt shaggy to me. The action was great and some of the kidnap story was fun to follow along with, it's the rom-com that sank it for me.

Jacob Chimilar

Weird. I find most things not funny and had a lot of fun, especially with the first act. I just thought the last act was far too long and suddenly the movie wanted to make me care about its nonsense plot.

Mountain of Conflict

In a tragic twist of fate, it was a lack of cynicism that kneecapped Jeff.

Shane Driscoll

Spielberg decidedly did not want to direct TPM (although he did one sequence for ROTS). Lucas apparently also asked others. Who knows why he didn't find a Kershner or Marquand.

Mountain of Conflict

I'm a big Leitch fan. I've liked almost all of his movies, especially Bullet Train, but I absolutely hated The Fall Guy. I thought the plot was ridiculous and nonsensical and none of the jokes landed for me (or anyone else in my theater from the sound of it). When I walked out of the theater, I thought, "Hey, at least the Filmcast will be fun when they tear this movie apart." Or not! I'm genuinely glad all the guys had a great time, but their praise also blows my mind. The low box office makes sense to me after seeing it.

Ben Wesorick

if possible would you guys be able to log what the “Next Week’s Review” film is in the show notes? sometimes i don’t listen all the way through the episode if i haven’t watched the current movie, and don’t want to encounter spoilers to find out next week’s ep… (PS can’t wait to hear your thoughts on FALL GUY when i listen to this during my morning commute tomorrow!!)

leanne royo


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