Ep. 798 - Here
Added 2024-11-05 17:00:09 +0000 UTCDavid, Devindra, and Jeff broadcast their thoughts on Woman of the Hour, do some self reflection with My Old Ass, and go for a thrilling swim with Caddo Lake. Then they share their opinions on the daring new Robert Zemeckis film Here.
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Weekly Plugs
David - Decoding Everything: Stephen David Miller’s Anora Review
Devindra - Engadget Podcast on the new Mac hardware
Jeff - Not So Happy Slappy
Shownotes (All timestamps are approximate only)
What we've been watching (~00:12:48)
David - Caddo Lake, Terrifier 2
Devindra - Woman of the Hour, The Diplomat Season 2, Ranma ½
Jeff - My Old Ass, ¡Casa Bonita Mi Amor!
Featured Review (~00:57:29)
Here
SPOILERS (~01:22:25)
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Comments
Gotta say I'm completely in agreement with Jeff's take on My Old Ass. The movie was charming and well made, with good performances, and is not at all what you might expect from the marketing. Aubrey Plaza is in the movie for maybe 10 minutes! Such a letdown in that regard.
Matthew Walker
2024-11-22 17:37:33 +0000 UTCVR came up in the discussion of Here and I wanted to point out a cute animated short called „Cycles” that is similar conceptually to the movie. It was Walt Disney Animation Studios first VR short and is available in standard format on Disney+
Blazej Staryszak
2024-11-15 11:53:36 +0000 UTCThe Caddo Lake was great DChen!!! Thank you so much, lowkey Dark and Time Crimes Vibes, thanks for not spoiling. I thought the female lead was the mom, but about halfway when I pieces the whole thing together I was like, oh hell yeah, i love this shit and hope it’s not incestual… when I did the math and found out that it wasn’t I was so happy, the thumbnail pic doesn’t do the film any favors.
Dwayne Bartholomew
2024-11-10 06:20:29 +0000 UTCDave - what do you think is the difference between the Terrifier movies and the Friday the 13th movies? What you're describing makes them sound similar to me. I was never a fan of the Ft13 movies, because they just seemed to exist to create visuals you'll never unsee regarding killing people. That's not something I need in my life. But I am curious if you see a difference or if Terrifier is the new Friday the 13th.
Jeff Gibson
2024-11-10 03:36:15 +0000 UTCThanks for Casa Bonita documentary recommendation. I had never heard of any of it and loved it.
Wil Johnson
2024-11-09 19:18:08 +0000 UTCThis is mainly for Dave, but regarding the Terrifier movies, I've seen all three, and also saw In a Violent Nature. I wouldn't say I'm a big "fan" of any of them, because Dave is mostly right about the Terrifier films and what they have to offer. I will say, that I think the only way to really get any enjoyment out of those movies is to think of them as almost like extremely dark comedies, where they want you to laugh at just how over the top the violence and gore is. But it definitely would not be difficult at all to just read them as almost entirely simply mean spirited instead. In a Violent Nature does have a couple kills which are very close to what you see in the Terrifier movies, although the Terrifier movies are still more extreme, which I know Devindra will find hard to believe, but it's true. In a Violent Nature is the only movie I've seen which comes close to those kills, but it's still not quite there. In a Violent Nature is also a very different kind of movie, as the premise is basically like what if they remade one of the forgettable Friday the 13th sequels, but did it almost entirely from the perspective of the Jason Voorhees character, and the kills were incredibly graphic. Art the Clown is closer in "personality" to someone like Freddy Krueger or Chucky (even if Art is mute), while Jason has no personality whatsoever, and that is the case with In a Violent Nature with "Johnny", the Jason surrogate. He just mindlessly walks around as a menacing, hulking figure, who brutally kills the people he encounters. Some of the kills are inventive, but while you can see Art the Clown really enjoying his kills to the point where he's almost yukking it up, Johnny just brutally murders people and then walks on in search of someone else to kill.
Stranger2Reality
2024-11-08 00:29:18 +0000 UTCDevindra seemed to hate it, so probably not.
Olivia Oliver
2024-11-07 14:34:22 +0000 UTCI immediately thought of that Netflix show when watching this movie and it did feel like a rip off IMO
Cindy McIntyre
2024-11-07 13:50:05 +0000 UTCDave - have you seen a certain popular Netflix show that reminds you a lot of Caddo Lake? Don’t want to spoil things for other people, but I was completely underwhelmed by the movie because it felt almost like a ripoff of this show. If you’re not sure what I’m talking about, I think you’d love it, and many of the top Letterboxd reviews on Caddo Lake are mentioning the show by name, so it should be easy to track down!
Austin Smith
2024-11-07 08:09:17 +0000 UTCYea I kept up with that, but just curious about Devindra and Jeff.
Tyler Sexton
2024-11-07 04:47:38 +0000 UTCDave I can tell you that if Terrifier 2 was too little story for you, you would HATE Terrifier 3. I thought 2 was ok, not terrible, but I was borderline offended at the laziness of the attempt at a story in the third one, not to mention the half-baked attempt at dissuading the misogyny claims against the franchise. I have almost never walked out of a movie and the only thing that kept me from leaving was the fact that I was at the Alamo and had to close out my check. So all this to say, don’t bother with the third one.
Austin Buccowich
2024-11-07 03:45:42 +0000 UTCDave has been discussing it week by week on his other podcast, Decoding TV
Austin Buccowich
2024-11-07 03:42:17 +0000 UTCWeird perspective on Here… I’m reminded of experiences people have reported with the drug salvia divinorum. Let me explain. Salvia is an intense hallucinogen some people take recreationally. In extreme cases, it can cause people to experience what they perceive to be YEARS-long hallucinations of an entirely different life. (I’ve heard the famous Star Trek TNG episode “The Inner Light” was inspired by salvia trips) Sometimes — horrifyingly — the other life they hallucinate is not that of a person, but that of an inanimate object, such as a vase sitting on the mantle in someone’s home. They experience years of life from this fixed perspective…they literally are a vase, unable to move or affect the world around them, only able to observe. They sit in the dark at night, and during the day watch a family go about daily life and grow over time, etc…when in reality they wake up in about half an hour, having lived this years-long experience entirely in their mind. I can’t imagine what that would be like but it struck me that Here is like an accidental, compressed representation of that experience: fixed perspective, watching time unfold over many years. I’m not otherwise very interested in Here, but viewing it as a horror film — a depiction of a nightmarish, decades-long salvia trip — makes it somewhat more intriguing. Maybe it’s worth a rewatch from that perspective? Lol
DarmineDoggyDoor
2024-11-07 03:05:51 +0000 UTCOne of my favourite films too, at least solidly in my top 5 I think. The score is probably the only one I’ve ever gone out of my way to listen to multiple times. When I heard the premise of Here I thought of a AGS immediately
Mark P
2024-11-07 02:35:39 +0000 UTCDiplomat season 1 was brain/breakingly shithouse but S2 was at least OK
Mark P
2024-11-07 02:34:00 +0000 UTCOther than a political setting and walk-and-talks, it doesn't bear a lot of resemblance to the West Wing IMO, just feels like a lazy point of comparison...it's much more cynical and clear-eyed about political realities for one thing. I'd say it's closer to a more dramatic Armando Iannucci if anything, although not exactly that either. If I had a criticism of S1 it felt a bit fizzy at times for my taste, squeezing in some light rom-com elements. S2 is much more sober and I thought the exploration of Russell and Sewell's relationship was really compelling. It also treats a minor character's death with a lot of respect and does other interesting things I don't see much on modern streaming shows. Anyway, different strokes I guess
DarmineDoggyDoor
2024-11-06 23:35:11 +0000 UTCWalter was not a fan: https://filmfreakcentral.net/2024/11/here-2024/
AJ Karim
2024-11-06 23:15:25 +0000 UTCI was worried about this movie. I do recall reading the graphic novel, which was a beautiful piece and Zemeckis is trying to literal from what I understand to copy what was done in panels of a comic on screen I was excited to go see this movie and ended up canceling my stubs ticketwhen I started seeing the hate. But based on the boys review, I may just go check it out.
AJ Karim
2024-11-06 22:52:16 +0000 UTCRare 2007 Beowulf fan here, I love that movie
Maxaveli
2024-11-06 21:33:56 +0000 UTCI do agree with the performances being good. As for Dave’s critique, I’ve seen the whole of the first season and it still seems on point TBH. Though it is a very different style and more of a thriller, the political machinations came across as fairly shallow. I didn’t hate it, but there was nothing there to make me feel like a second season is worth investing in.
Lahiru
2024-11-06 21:29:07 +0000 UTCThe graphic novel of Here is absolutely gorgeous. You have to check it out, Jeff.
Tony Disarufino
2024-11-06 20:42:11 +0000 UTCThank you! Imma check it out, I like Dylan Obrien
hexum311add
2024-11-06 19:05:07 +0000 UTCI watched Caddo Lake, it's totally my jam. I thought the set up comes fast enough, you find out there is a mystery fairly quickly and there are just enough clues if you are on the look out, and the answer is worthwhile.
Jacob Chimilar
2024-11-06 18:43:49 +0000 UTCgirl goes missing, there is a mystery as to why, the mystery is cool and worth the ride.
Jacob Chimilar
2024-11-06 18:40:49 +0000 UTCAlso The Diplomat is phenomenal. S2 really steps it up after a pretty good season 1
Wil Johnson
2024-11-06 18:24:11 +0000 UTCPersonally I think that Caddo Lake is pretty accessible to most people. If you check comments on videos about it the general population liked it.
Wil Johnson
2024-11-06 18:18:14 +0000 UTCHaving disagreed with Devindra on The Diplomat, I found myself nodding along as he described A Ghost Story. Great film!
Lahiru
2024-11-06 18:05:46 +0000 UTCVery much disagree. It’s a reductive take and Dave admittedly only watched a few episodes. I like The Diplomat a lot and the second season is an improvement on the first. Wouldn’t say it’s the best show on tv or anything but it’s a strong, enjoyable B+, smart writing and excellent performances
DarmineDoggyDoor
2024-11-06 17:41:01 +0000 UTCThe Diplomat - I wish the show Devindra watched was anything like the show that I watched on Netflix… sadly I found Dave’s description of sub par West Wing to be fairly accurate.
Lahiru
2024-11-06 15:34:45 +0000 UTCI enjoyed Here. I think the sort of gut punch at the end sold it, otherwise it was perfectly enjoyable
Jacob Chimilar
2024-11-06 02:04:11 +0000 UTCThe Pie made me cry
Jacob Chimilar
2024-11-06 02:01:30 +0000 UTCI literally paused the podcast, went to watch Caddo Lake, and then came back. Totally worth it.
Nervous_NRG
2024-11-05 21:50:55 +0000 UTCCaddo lake - without you telling me what it’s about or other movies it’s like. I’m not going to check it out. Let’s not take the fear of spoiling something so far
hexum311add
2024-11-05 21:21:08 +0000 UTCSorry Dave lol
Chris Hughes
2024-11-05 21:14:14 +0000 UTCI’m one of the folks that emailed in asking y’all to watch CADDO LAKE. Like Dave, I was frustrated by the first half or so of the film, and yet was gripped by its sense of mystery and atmosphere. I still feel ambivalent about the movie, and whether or not the “plot device” and ending totally paid off, but I appreciated the intricacy of it, and the acceleration toward the film’s conclusion. Thanks for taking the rec, and glad you enjoyed!
CDMatthew
2024-11-05 21:01:23 +0000 UTCA Ghost Story is one of my favourite films of all time - would love to hear what Jeff thinks about it.
Tyler Appleby
2024-11-05 19:49:10 +0000 UTCDave, your assessment of the Terrifier movies is accurate, but like it or not, Art The Clown has cemented himself as as a horror icon along with Freddy, Jason, and Michael
Eric Webster
2024-11-05 19:36:13 +0000 UTCI would be curious to hear thoughts on We Live in Time which connects thematically with Here.
Timothy Mably
2024-11-05 19:01:34 +0000 UTCHey, gents. I’m not 100% that Quincy Jones worked on Berry Gordy’s The Last Dragon.
Ojipan
2024-11-05 17:34:11 +0000 UTCAny plans to regroup on Agatha?
Tyler Sexton
2024-11-05 17:01:43 +0000 UTC
