PATREON EXCLUSIVE: When Should You Try Dating Women From Developing Countries?

So, I'm new to this, but.... I am an expatriate and have lived in a country which is foreign to me for about 10 years. I am recently back in the dating game and have found what I think seems to be a good tactic related to this topic. In my case, I have found that dating the locals isn't really such a great idea... they tend to just be normal people who really aren't prepared for the challenges associated with dating a foreign man. I have had much more success dating other foreigners in my country that are not from my own country. I live in a richer country from Latin America and we get many immigrants from poorer latin American countries. the immigrants, in my experience, are hard working good people who are at a disadvantage. But they are really quite high value people who add loads to their partners. Also, we have an easy connection because we can complain about the local difficulties we experience together as foreigners, we mutually pertain to a specific segment of the population... foreigners... They are also quite pleased when someone recognizes them for the high value people they are... So, with this, I get to benefit from the hight and skin tone advantages as those biases extend throughout the region (stupid as they are), but eliminate many of the disadvantages of dating a local (not prepared to date foreigner, imbalanced social network as they have all their family, risk of them treating you as something to show off...) I hope this helps someone!

The issue is that there is this inherent misogynistic view that these women aren't women just because they live in a developing country. That they are not going to do the exact same things that a western woman will do if placed in a western environment. If you are going to want an eastern woman, you are going to have to assimilate to her culture (learn her language, eat her foods, give your kid a name more traditional for that area, etc) and even that isn't 100% an option now that the internet is such a huge thing. The best bet you have as of this point is to, I think, become a very high-quality man and spend less time searching for women. Go to these other countries to use the sex industry, but don't go there trying to get a wife

Marcus Shepherd

I'm actually a single missionary to Romania and will add my experiences/observations. To start with, the whole premise of this is wrong and flies in the face of what you're teaching. Do not chase women. To look or move abroad just to find a woman is the penultimate beta move, second to giving an organ to a woman who put you in the friendzone. Don't get me wrong. High quality women are outrageously difficult to find in 1st world countries. But they will be impossible to find and keep no matter where you are in the world if you are not actually a high quality man to begin with. Work on yourself first. Poorer countries also have hyper-masculine and aesthetically perfected men that you have to compete with. From here on out I'm going to list things by bullets: -The only reason to consider a foreign bride is because you found her where you want to live (not where your fetish for a certain race can be played out.) Culture shock and isolation is a big deal. It is a huge mistake to pull a woman out of her culture, friends, and family. Who do you think she wants to help her with childcare? Your family or hers? With your family, it's likely she'd feel like "the help" asking for assistance from her employers. -You need to be wealthy and have free time if you're going to ignore the above and try to bring a woman back home. You will suddenly have the care and maintenance costs of an adult woman and perhaps children practically overnight. In addition, can you foot the bill for airline tickets at the drop of a hat? Because homesickness happens. Family emergencies happen. And in many of those cultures, you don't just send money. Also, in many cultures you are expected to help extended family. They don't have social security. Family is the only thing they've got, and this further benefited you by helping their approval of you (just don't get steamrolled by being a chump. They need the basics like anyone else. Not cellphones and designer clothes.) Also, it costs a lot more to live abroad than the daily cost-of-living might leave you to believe. The locals benefit from passing down their wealth and possessions through family. You, however, will inevitably pay the "gringo price." In addition, maintaining a "Western" lifestyle in a foreign country can be more expensive than if you were to live at home. Imports and energy cost a lot. -You need a reason to stay. While there are many reasons to leave developed countries, you need a real reason to stay in a new one. Because the loneliness and isolation is going to get to you. Not having a mission and living idly is going to eat away at your masculine energy. And being there just to be with a woman will cost you dearly. For me it's easy. I'm there to assist the needs of the church and to fulfill my personal mission of helping orphans. -Much of what AG already says about how to meet high-quality women is more true than ever in poorer countries. You need to make male friends. You need to become someone respectable in the community. And you need to have your stuff together. In my case, I'll be owning and operating a highly-lucrative and highly in-demand business, while associating with leaders in local churches. Leading churches, myself, too. However, without those friends, I'd be so incredibly lost and otherwise invisible to the locals. -It is not gold diggers you have to worry about as much as it is your own poor opinion of yourself. Do not trip over yourself because a pretty and very young girl is interested in you. Thankfully, even before running across AG's work, I had already grown enough of a backbone and had a mission that was more important than any woman. Because I've walked away from women that a lot of men would saw their right arm off for. And they would have been nightmares to be with. Your mission is what determines whether or not a woman is suitable for your life, not 'her' looks. -Don't be humble or braggadocios, be authentic. Because the women can get either of the first two all day, every day. -Dress exceptionally well. The places you would want to live may not have access to your wealth, but they have access to enough wealth to afford clothes. And, believe me, you cannot look like a tourist with a fanny pack and expect to get anywhere. _________ Those were the big things. I'm all for leaving the developed world for better opportunities and more agreeable cultures. But, that's the thing. You leave it behind. Appreciate your new home. Learn the language. Learn the culture. Get real friends. Develop your reputation as a high quality man. And Do. Not. Chase. Women. By all means, flirt with, chat with, and dine with women. But you really need to be the kind of man that those women will chase and your friends would set up with good women. Because if you're a tool out to meet women, or you get oneitis and make her the center of your world, you'll chase off the good ones and end up with someone who will make you wish you were single.

Yep, Eastern Europe

Is there anywhere beneficial for brown-olive skinned folks who are in the west currently? Maybe Eastern Europe?

hypergamy will run wild, all it takes is for her to go on a dating app and she instantly has hundreds of options, she will also possibly get hit on by other men in public. I personally know someone who brang one back and his girlfriend secretly went on tinder and was having multiple sexual relations with attractive white men (the alpha male chad types). He was very traumautised. Furthermore women are highly influenced by their environment/surroundings and bringing her back to the west will certainly change her.

Many valid points that are laid there, it's also worthwhile to be cautious of the relationship dynamics with very muslim families, for example, stereotypically moroccan women (where I grew up most of my life) are highly hypergamous and may associate being a westerner with being an undoubtedly secure provider (or simply very rich), not to deny this evolutionary instinct from my part but in its extremes she can be very demanding; when one does marry her one does marry her family and that can mean her family members can be intrusive into your life, especially if she has a brother; she can get (or blackmail in some cases) her husband to regularly send money back to her family, which I think can be draining; again, this is not a generalization of Moroccan women but I believe it's healthy to have a wholesome view of developing societies and make a balanced decision when one is trying to find a non-western gf.

good contribution Hardik, thanks

Blair

Thanks for talking about this topic. I'm pretty interested in it. I generally agree with your advice. Regarding the risks of over-romanticizing: 1) language - I agree 2) parenting differences - this can easily be a problem even when marrying someone from your own country 3) stigma - yeah, but ignore the haters

Blair

I agree with most of what you have said and also wanna add the Height advantage you gonna have other than the fair skin. But as other members have pointed out may be an average girl(in terms of looks, Education, Social status) Might wanna settle down in their native place or may be settle in the west (ready to leave her family, friends and culture to settle in a totally different environment). But most girls in her prime with above average Looks, Education, Social Status and Values would hardly consider moving to a totally new culture with all the problem that comes with and also leave her family and culture. See these girls have good options here in terms of looks education and social status so they(and their parents) are not gonna take that risk. There is also a stereotype that foreign men just wanna sleep with you, they are not serious(about marriage). If any white male wanna optimize this strategy i would recommend going to Metropolitan cities of those countries. Here in India, as you may know, 90% of the total marriages are arranged(but trend is decreasing) and dating is more prevalent in Tier-1 cities but these cities are also the ones that are infected with toxic Feminism.

Hardik Gupta

If bringing a foreign bride back home appeals to you, better think of the downside to all of this. First, ask yourself what kind of a woman would leave here family behind ? Keep in mind these people are not accustomed to your culture. They will probably not be accepted in your society completely. Does she have a drivers licence ? Probably not. Ever try to teach an older woman how to drive ? About the only work these people seem to be able get is retail. Has anyone ever told you that any degree they may have is only good for toilet paper in the US ? Ever stop and think how much time, effort and $$$$ is involved to get her citizenship ? Ain't cheap ! Oh ! and what about subsidizing those trips back home to visit her family ? Now once you you've gone through the process what do you think this woman is thinking when she realizes that your really not the best catch out there ??? Yeah,yeah I know what your thinking. She's going to appreciate everything that you've done for her to lift her out of poverty ! THINK AGAIN !!

Total agreement here with Thomas. Back in 99 I brought back a Ukrainian women to the US. Yeah, she was a hottie. Did not speak English. These people get lonely real fast. The first thing they do is find others here from their own country to talk to. I, for one was surprised at the number who already in the area (20) or so. Now as time passes thats when the divorces happen. Within 10 years or so all of these couples were divorced myself included, with the exception of one. I personally know this couple and he is not happy with the situation.

As Southeast asian. I approve his point about light skin tone and beauty standard in Asia.

For me the only way to have a successful one is to be a high value guy anyway. Also moving to that developing country has a much higher chance of success (if you enjoy living there), especially as a last resort plan. Speaking with quite some experience in dating foreign women and in foreign countries...

I am a little disappointed that some points were not talked about: - Bringing a girl back in western countries has a high chance of westernizing her and you will lose your advantages quite quickly because she will be surrounded by other white men. - Additionally, if you search for a woman with the intention of bringing her back, you risk a lot to be the target of women who are interested in your passport and not your person, which will lead to unhappy relationship (that's a thing that I really don't like with your last resort plan you talked at the end, for me it is just a train wreck waiting to happen...)