PATREON EXCLUSIVE: Is It Unethical Or Manipulative To Run Game On Women?

It's paradoxical that they like to essentially be insulted but if it makes them happy and it makes you happy then it's ethical. One idea I have been toying with is just telling them it's an act to build attraction. Like one email you banter with them. Then the next email you just communicate. You tell them which email was which. Then they know you are the person from the second email with a skill that is available that you showed in the first email.

Golden content, thanks Alex!

Your right the teasing is essential. I was taught it was evil when growing up by female teachers, sisters and mother... even my dad told me to mellow out... Now Im like dumb founded about it. Got to fire it back up. Just a quick funny / not funny note: Epstein didn’t kill himself Feminisms chief goal is population management and reduction.

Well put, I agree as well with the idea of cycling. I think a lot of the failure that follows post-game in the aftermath of initially meeting and building attraction is that guys relax and stop doing the things that attracted her in the first place so the lack of game tends to lose some of the fun masculine dynamics she enjoyed to begin with (talking of face to face or direct communication rather than stupid bullshit like how long to wait when you receive a text etc).

Craig

You also say „he has Game“ if he is just good with attracting women. It doesn‘t necessary mean that he is using certain techniques. If playfully teasing a girl that you like is natural behaviour to you, it‘s still Game. Only with the difference that for you it is natural and for some other guy/beginner it‘s a technique. But this technique can transform into your nature if you have those kinds if personality traits.

Fairness. It’s the problem. When we get hooked on being fair, we then can do so many things from a mans perspective that can be called unfair. Is it fair she has paint all over her face but then acts like she doesn’t? Is it fair her bra is padded, or that she spends years honing her clothing to manipulate both men and women to like her more and or to be intimidated? Is it fair she may say she’s single or has a bf just to play with you and see how you deal with lies, exaggerations or dangerous / questionable situations? Is it fair she thinks a quick return call makes you lame where a slower return call makes you mysterious ? On this last point, I’m a salesman... it takes 10 seconds to return a call. It’s very easy. I’ve done that and it’s made me look very bad to many women because I chose honesty over playing games due to my toxic female family members pushing me during my youth to be boringly honest to a fault while they gamed 24/7... On this last point. Is it fair women often say never play games then the proceed to game up their entire life as if it was the obvious way to “just live”... Lastly, have you , any of you reading this ever read the names on the make up products of women’s? Seriously ? Have you picked up her eye liner and actually read the script on it? Many say “drama master”, “love creator”, “sex kitten”, “scene creator”, or other ideas / or socially dominating , calibrated, manipulative words that fully imply agenda and not simply being ones self... On that tip, what if the magazines that teach psychology to women that’s designed to fuck with us? My sisters mags were all over the place, I read them... it only made me sad and encouraged me to think nothing was love but the word itself... very sad... and all a act of cunning, deception and cruelty from a kind mans perspective. The biggest game as I mentioned before is the I’m not playing a game line chicks run with and prescribe to men who might like to be better at dating. A normal thing. To be better at dating. It then turns out to make us hated by them because we would like to be better at dating. You can say that so kindly and honestly that it generates real hate from them. Or you can say it in a game like way and it is excepted as duh, of coarse... who doesn’t want that. And never make the mistake of just talking openly about this from a learners perspective that is raw, open, kind... you’ll get slaughtered. It’s like Santa Clause. No one really tells you it’s fake. You have to find out on your own. Many lie to you. And laugh at you too. Then humiliate you. It’s how it goes down and your still a kid or stupid if you don’t “get it”... That’s sorta how it is asking women for advice when your genuinely open, kind and humble... I understand this channel asks women for advice or questions them but it is done from a confident, framed, and methodology crafted place of building a businesses. That in itself is already very well grounded in I don’t give a fuck abundance mind set rather than... I want to be a good guy and have fun too how can I not be a piece of shit while I seek connection with women I like who for some strange reason don’t quite fawn over me like I do them... So game... is it fair? Or is meeting the enemy on the enemies terms of same same but different ethics? My opinion is: seek excellence of self, Of life ect while you game because game protects you as much as it informs you about how things are read, taken or projected by women in general. Why’s that chick fucking with me at work? Why she bothers me or is mean? Lol, it’s a shit test... she’s actually attracted to you bro... so her damaging you is a act of investigation... you need game to know that. Game is essential in a world where merit is became almost illegal to discuss and fairness of outcome the only thing “allowable” in general company... Game as you said Alexander should have its place... but imo that place is cycled. Like maybe 3 days on normal and 1 day of game as far as letting us “connect” but still keeping her hot and interested. The problem is women, MANY OF THEM, have no loyalty, but they do have FEELINGS, and those feels are free of time, agenda, or rational outcome... if she feels your weak for crying, sadness, or confusion over parts of your life... she’ll respond by treating you like shit, projecting your a idiot ect ect ect... In fact being stoic is a game of self power and self wisdom... results will vary and do so over accumulated skill or self control and wisdoms... But in the moment a chick can dump you, the same chick who will keep you... because you were fully open to her. In this case... it is like animal training. Don’t trust the dog wont bite your hand when it’s eating until it is conditioned other wise it FEELS the need to act in order to protect its kibble, bone or toy... Today, women more than ever are being told to attack, be tough, be mean, ect ect ect and also to be victims... and it makes them very volatile and mis comprehend basic living which game teaches us to surf and well navigate rather then become mired by. I’ll stop here. But I am glad you posed the question. I am glad you said fake verse feeling connected. Things like that. It’s wise framing. My inner bitch loves connection, sappy silly, playful girl like connection... it is what it is. But game allows freedom, protection, versatility and so forth... game even teaches us to man up and teaches us how women mis-read us and use us for selfish but reasonable outcomes... I think game can be cycled 3-1, 1-3 or some ration... it cannot be abandoned not ever should be. Until her cave woman feelings get well adjusted... game is here to stay ;-)

have not watch the video yet but just looking at the concept if that was the case we should ban make up. How dare women do things to artificially make themselves more attractive.

manchinesandmonsters

How to tell whether your game is working... If you're not having fun, then you're doing it wrong.

I don't know about stop playing game. I often find it a lot of fun to overly exaggerate and play game intentionally poorly to create some fun moments in life with my gf

I have mild Asperger syndrome, a brain wiring issue. Neurotypicals (NTs) process emotions in two brain areas, Aspies only one, the same area that processes logic/maths. People who are clearly Aspie attract bullies and needless to say, that can be very distressing. The solution I adopted was to synthesize a persona that makes me appear to be NT. Is that gaming? I suspect many NTs would say it is. I on the other hand see my synthesised persona differently. I have for a long time been a practicing Stoic. This entails turning oneself into the type of person one desires to be. It’s based on concepts of wisdom, honesty, justice, courage… living in harmony with nature and we are part of nature.

Jonathan Sturm

What you call game, we used to call an ice-breaker. Once the ice was broken, you no longer need to break the ice. Simple...

Jonathan Sturm