Facing The Manosphere's Most Savage Critic (The CBP Channel) EARLY ACCESS PLUS MY REACTION AT THE END

The "Congo Dandy" comment made me ill and demonstrated his lack of experience with the culture, from my perspective, what i gain as a black man from content domain is insight that was never available to me, we could go deeper in to single mom, fragmented male role models. Much of what i learned about women was from TV and Movie and i know thats sad. This content is gold and should be required viewing

P.S. Once again, I am not correcting typos because the platform collapses a psot that has been updated repeatedly.

Ashwin Srinivas

I completely disagree with his crisiticsm on Kevin Samuels. I hadn't really heard about CBP before but checked out some more of his videos after and during this one and it seems like he targets people with the sole purpose of trying to expose them. Now, don't get me wrong, there is some merit to this, like if in a debate about banning cigarettes, you have one side arguin for a topic and another side arguing againdt it, then this guy deliberately assumes the extreme end of arguing against the issue that has a flipside and sometimes ends up contradicting himself because despite having certain agreements and being able argue on both sides of this issue that has a flipside, he just deliberately puts himself on one extreme end. So that's the problem essentially. But I still think that he's someone worthy of listeneing to to gather points on that end of the spectrum he is in for your own analysis of this issue that has a flipside. I have my criticisms on Kevin Samuels but this is one case where I don't agree with CBP at all. Finally made it to the end of the video and posted this comment! Phew...I'm a true fan bro. #AGCrew

Ashwin Srinivas

The black pill is not the one that looks behind the matrix. So it is not the door to truth. Otherwise it would be called the dark red pill.

Regarding the comments about the black manosphere, I like watching black YouTubers.  I find the perspective of blacks, especially black Americans, fascinating because of my own experiences as a non-black ethnic minority.  I like to see where our experiences are the same and where they are different.  As an outsider looking in on the American black community, I see a significant confluence of race and class, more than I do when looking at white Americans or even my own ethnic culture.  One black MGTOW creator said that he hates it when white people come into his comments or DMs and, while they agree with him, they are also implying that it's the same all over and that they know how he feels. But from his point of view, it's not the same all over.  He believes that, however bad the situation is between white western men and white western women,  it's magnified 10x in the black community.  There's not much solidarity for him in the manosphere.  He's like: white boys, don't come crying to me about your woman problems because we black guys have to deal with black women and they're way worse. To me, these black YouTubers seem to use Red Pill/MGTOW as a way for black men to escape the racial stereotypes and end the cycle of poverty, not just as a way to handle women.  Hence the intersection of race and class. One of them claimed that the behaviors and attitudes of modern black women is what's causing the level of criminal depravity and social debasement he thinks black men are at right now.  As in, black men are committing crimes in response to their girlfriends' behavior. I feel like he's saying that, as far as pitfalls for young black men, women and especially black women are in the same category as drugs and gangs. Another creator says something similar, but more magnanimous, suggesting that the reason black women invariably find the 'thug' life sexually attractive (do they?) is that black media/artists promote it to them.  And that's one of the main drivers of young black men entering into that lifestyle, is they do it to attract black women. Therefore, maybe it's a matter of life and death, not just as simple as 'don't get divorce raped'. The one thing all the black manosphere creators I've seen have in common is a hatred for the single mother.  Even in non-manosphere spaces I've seen some blacks lament the acceptance of single motherhood as a foregone conclusion for black women.  Nay, not just the acceptance, but the preference that black women should be single mothers.

Jennifer Coopman

Yeah I understand, I was wondering during the conversation how to inject myself more. 3 hours is a LOT!

Alexander Grace

Alexander I love ya but 3 hours was too much for me!  Especially since I feel like I didn't even learn anything from this particular guest.  Listening to him ramble and then listening to your interjections made me appreciate how verbally articulate and thoughtful you are.  The contrast was so sharp to me. Does that make me a pay pig? LOL!

Jennifer Coopman

Jimmy makes a good point about MGTOW proponents constantly talking so much about women. Now 66, I had my share of attractive women, and almost married twice. You could describe me as a subscriber of MGTOW, because I "retired" from dating long ago, not because I couldn't attract women, but because I couldn't keep them. Finally, I realized my relationships crumbled because I couldn't "afford" the women I attracted. I was a journalist, and most of the women I dated were professionals in successful careers, earning more than journalists. So, despite feminist ideals, which I embrace, most of the women many men and I dated still seemed attached to men being the providers. Unless kids are involved, why were so many women still embracing that and not equality? To me the MGTOW philosophy grew out of men's frustration with that. MGTOW is a philosophy that rejects traditional relationships and actually embraces the feminist philosophy of equality.

Roger Hayden

Great content and interview. Love the comments so far and will need time to watch this video and generate some thoughts. To his point, I have found that Red Pill content can have a detrimental effect on how I think of women, including my girlfriend (a great person, probably the most integrity of any woman I've dated in recent memory). It's feeling a little toxic, which is why I appreciate Alexander's approach and am interested in hearing his guest out...

Only 50 mins in so far but I really like Jimmy's content and have been hooked on it for a while tbh. You can tell he has a lot of intelligence and critical thinking (like yourself). Will need to watch the rest of this when I get time off work! xxx

Alisha

One of my all time favorite channels, watched him since his old channel was up.

Thanks a lot for sharing that was very interesting not watched the whole thing though ;) Haven't come across "CPB" yet and won't check it out but he seems to be a very intelligent guy and he's def. right about this "Red Pill"-niche of certain content creators there where it's basically just about business and they are very good marketers becoming quite rich! It's really like they through these wisdom nuggets which may actually help but also aiming onto the resentment of men who had bad experience with women and from a marketers perspective if you have like 100.000 views and a conversion rate of 2 % you have like 2000 ppl who might order your course because you totally hit their emotional spot and turning them into advocates and reached your goal at the end of your "funnel", so in a nutshell you can see these videos as trip wires for people to sell their stuff and step by step whatever works continuously improving their "avatar" (.see google "avatar" | "In marketing, an avatar is a little fiction that helps us understand who our ideal customers are so can more easily find them"). It def. becomes problematic if the things you put out there are too populistic which I have seen of a certain person also mentioned in the video where instead of defuse confusion and trying to understand more another having the opposite effect and then having these echo chambers and then ppl run on the street and jump on each other’s throats in the worst case not to mention algorithms which might be even more disastrous having ppl not knowingly run down a vicious rabbit hole... And I totally agree with you if you want to make assumptions about and judge someone then at least try to gather as much information as you can and try to understand the other part as much as possible even if it takes time... but in the end "CBP" also wants to "sell" his stuff meaning he needs to polarize even if it turns out quite superficial otherwise there would be no drama and ppl wouldn't watch it...

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