Bonfireside Chat 266: Mountaintops of the Giants (Part 2)
Added 2023-06-18 22:54:33 +0000 UTCSo far away from the Erdtree. Will we ever find our way home?
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Yeah, I definitely got that going. I do up triangle for torrent. What is this in reference to? -GB
Duckfeed.tv
2023-08-07 17:29:00 +0000 UTCOh. You can assign items to like a hotbar thing you can access by pressing triangle. I put my flasks and torrent on there so i dont have to cycle through the items by pressing down repeatedly. I personally have torrent assigned to triangle up, crimson flask to triangle left, physik to triangle bottom, and cerulean to triangle right. Takes a bit of getting used to but once you get used to it, it's a very efficient and convenient way to use those items. I recommend giving it a try. It frees up your regular hot bar for stuff you dont use as often
Chewing Our Tongues Off
2023-08-07 12:30:01 +0000 UTCHis adds are vulnerable to bewitching branches. Thats the only way i was able to beat him
Chewing Our Tongues Off
2023-08-07 12:13:03 +0000 UTCHmm I wonder if Commander O’Nial offered his leg to Godefroy instead of Godrick. Makes them closer in proximity as Godefroy is in Altus and did grafting before, it’s implied Godrick didn’t start grafting until he left the capital and regrouped at Stormveil
Mateus Silva
2023-08-01 04:23:30 +0000 UTCI'm kinda shocked, I know that "different people have different experiences with the bosses" is a major refrain of the show, but I was so expecting y'all to go in on Commander Niall as unbalanced nonsense. I just truly don't understand how you're supposed to not get hit by him.
Jensen Yancey
2023-06-25 22:11:07 +0000 UTCI just want to let you guys know how much I appreciate your constant casual Simpsons references.
Cody Russell
2023-06-21 16:18:32 +0000 UTCI haven’t listened yet but I’ll just say this after seeing the episode image — just played Castle Sol on my second play through and I thought it was so weird that Latenna’s disembodied voice led me to the castle but didn’t keep corresponding with me throughout the castle, and then when you get to Commander Niall at the end, her spirit summon is incredibly weak to him. I fully expected Latenna to have some part of the castle’s gameplay.
Austin Mathis
2023-06-20 14:07:31 +0000 UTCI always thought the 2nd Commander offered his leg similar to how the fire giant does for his God not to Godwyn.
Funk Phunkerton
2023-06-20 03:04:09 +0000 UTC*gasp*
Charlie Frame
2023-06-19 19:24:32 +0000 UTCThis is right, they have a little summon animation they throw out. Piggybacking off this, the ones in Mountaintops are tied to the Tibia Mariner and die upon its death, but unlike the Mariner they respawn upon the player dying/resting.
Lucas West
2023-06-19 18:51:50 +0000 UTCI could be way off with this because I am admittedly very foggy on the order of the Elden Ring timeline, but I wonder if the rituals performed at Castle Sol are what ultimately invited the death root to take hold over Godfrey’s essence. I get the sense that Godfrey’s death is one of the things that led Miquella to ultimate lose faith in the Erdtree, and Miquella went to or helped the folks at Castle Sol in his attempt to bring Godfrey back after the night of black knives. But I think those efforts went horribly wrong. Since the eclipse emblem is connected to the mausoleums and mausoleum knights, it would have made sense for Castle Sol to be infested with buffed mausoleum knights. Instead we find the ghostly remains of Godfrey’s army. And the eclipse shotel references the eclipse in its description, but it inflicts death blight, a status effect I don’t remember any of the mausoleum knights using. So maybe the shotel represents a corruption of the force behind the mausoleums, which protects soulless demigods in a passive slumber. Instead, whatever ritual was performed at Castle Sol invited the deathroot to take hold in Godfrey, turning him into an active force. That ritual could then also have been the impetus for the high levels of undead in close proximity for the Castle, and maybe the lack of mausoleum knights despite a mausoleum literally parked right outside the castle gate.
Kenny Bentley
2023-06-19 16:28:10 +0000 UTC(Oh, also, maybe lightning-kick commander guy donated his leg to Godefroy, the First of Grafting, long before Godrick the Imitator's time? Eh? Eh? You see! Godefroy isn't just a repeat boss. He's necessary for LORE. Also, I like repeat bosses.)
Micah Tillman
2023-06-19 13:40:09 +0000 UTC(Oh, also, I believe there is a summoner Albinauric who is responsible for the giant skeleton ghosts in Mohgland, hiding off in the brush as summoners are wont to do. There may be two, actually, since I think there are two of those skeletons. I would have to go check.)
Micah Tillman
2023-06-19 12:59:29 +0000 UTCI too am pretty convinced by Kole, and I usually am completely baffled by where loremeisters are getting stuff from in FromSoft games. My headcanon is that Aurelia and Aureliette were born and died either in Roderika's homeland or somewhere between there and Limgrave. (Roderika either comes into possession of Aurelia's ashes on her journey to Stormveil Castle or before setting out, after all.) Aurelia and Aureliette must have been old enough when they died to have learned that the stars could be seen from the Mountaintops, then to become obsessed with seeing those stars, and then to make a pact to do so when they turned 14. (Perhaps 14 is age where you're considered an adult in their culture, as 13 and 15 are in other real-world cultures.) When A&A died before being able to fulfill their dream (somewhere between the age where you can make plans for the future and when you turn 14), their family decided to have them buried in Mountaintops, where they had always dreamed of going. Somewhere along the journey to have them buried, however, some part of Aurelia (some of her ashes, or some part of what would become her ashes) got separated from the rest, so that it could end up in the possession of Roderika. (Maybe they had been cremated and were being transported by cart, but the cart tipped over and Aurelia's urn spilled a bit. Or maybe they hadn't been cremated and the cart was attacked by wolves, and one managed to tear off a bit of poor dead Aurelia. Whatever the lost bit was must have been the part that housed her soul.) All of Aureliette, and the rest of Aurelia, however, made it to the Mountaintops and was buried. Since we know that these two are children, and their spirits manifest as jellyfish near their ashes/corpses, it would imply that all the other jellyfish spirits are also the spirits of children hanging out near their bodies (either because they were buried nearby, or because they were killed nearby and their bodies were simply left to rot; e.g., drowning at sea).
Micah Tillman
2023-06-19 12:55:41 +0000 UTCI took the "see the stars" line as being a promise to visit the stars, not just look at them. Sort of a "give you the moon" promise.
superkeaton
2023-06-19 12:25:50 +0000 UTCPretty sure Kole is right about the jellyfish being the sprits of children - I took that as canon
Charlie Frame
2023-06-19 11:25:11 +0000 UTCJust finished listening to this great episode. I'm probably way too late for this to be included in the next response show, so I'll just put this here. I wanted to give a little context to the names Niall and O'Neil. Commander Niall (pronounced Nile, like the river) is potentially named after a guy from Irish history called Niall of the Nine Hostages. (I'd love to tell you that this Niall exchanged a limb for nine imprisoned hostages, but actually the name comes from his habit of taking hostages...) Where this guy might be more relevant is that all modern-day and historical O'Neills (O'Neils, etc.) are supposedly descended from him. The O'Neill clan were also hugely important in Irish history and held a preeminent position in Irish society for around 400 years. They're probably the closest thing Ireland has to a historical royal bloodline. Fun fact: O'Neill (pronounced like kneel) is commonly translated as 'Son of Niall', but it'd be more accurate to translate it as 'descendant of Niall'. Niall's son specifically wouldn't have been called O'Neill, and would instead have been know as MacNeill, which literally translates as Son of Niall. So any O'Neill would be a grandchild or further removed from the original Niall. So while Commander O'Neil is connected to Commander Niall, it wouldn't necessarily be a father-son relationship, in fact it probably isn't. Lastly, and this is a smaller point, the difference between the spelling and pronunciation of Neill and Niall isn't a question of corruption over time, but rather an effect of how grammar works in the Irish language. In the same way that English words can change their spelling based on tense or whether they're singular or plural, Irish words can also be changed by things like possession or whether they're being spoken about in their own right versus in relation to other things/ people. It's so interesting to me to see how much Irish history and culture shows up in this game. I'd love to know who the Irish-expert is on the team and thank them for all these little referenced! Thanks again for all the shows! Stephen
Stephen
2023-06-19 09:38:48 +0000 UTCThis episode and the Pentiment WOFF ep really show that you guys watched and enjoyed Season 3 of I Think You Should Leave. It cracked me up as well. "That 1 egg was 40 eggs?"
Mitchell Biggs
2023-06-19 05:26:17 +0000 UTCThe Commander Niall fight is one of my favorite fights in the game! I love his armor and those lighting leg guillotine kicks are so cool! The Commander's Standard halberd was one of main weapons on my first run so my first incounter with him was this insane halberd dual!
T
2023-06-19 01:43:48 +0000 UTC
