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Patreon Exclusive- What is Evil? with Dr. John

This morning, we had a conversation on the couch about the topic "What is Evil" and decided it would be a good conversation to record impromptu as we talked through the question!

Patreon Exclusive- What is Evil? with Dr. John Patreon Exclusive- What is Evil? with Dr. John

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I totally agree with Grayson (not sure if I’m spelling it right) this podcast/channel is so unique and provides immense value for me I love the education I get and you don’t turn families’ greatest tragedies into entertainment but rather show us how society can learn from them. And that’s the side of true crime that I like.

Elizabeth Tippetts

It’s interesting because if we equate psycho/sociopathic traits with evil- but those ppl have no capacity to be naturally empathetic then they can’t really be blamed? However I have heard from people who have friends diagnosed sociopathic and they make a choice to be considerate and have their work arounds for it. So wouldn’t that mean to be truly evil someone who is capable of empathy would have to actively choose to NOT be empathetic is what evil actually is? Also I don’t think a diagnosis necessarily negates evil. I think it explains behavior but if a person has the capacity to be empathetic then maybe they are just evil? Not every person who was cruelly abused as a child will choose to abuse others. They exercise their empathy and know that those behaviors hurt others and actively choose to change their behaviors. So is it evil to decide not to change? Is every person capable of change? Definitely an intriguing discussion. Thank you.

Elizabeth Tippetts

Those talk show challenges where you have to identify a whole song within the first 2 seconds… there’s a reason. The reigning champs all hail from the mixtape era

Kimberly Fine

Happy birthday Lauren! I buy my own presents too. 😃 Anything to help my husband out. ❤️

Tammy Morgan

I’m more interested in why people committed evil in Hitlers name. Hitler was only one person but the atrocities committed on the Jews were committed by many. How could they justify what they were doing?

Wendy Sullivan

We have the same birthday! Belated happy birthday

susan cannon

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Lynn Saastad

I don’t think people are inherently evil; I think people make evil choices. If those evil choices make up what can be perceived as their general presence and/or contribution in the world, I think it makes sense to call them evil. Hitler would be a great example. For me, the evil is about how much harm they inflict throughout their life. If Hitler had been genuinely remorseful in the last 24 hours of his life, would it have made him a less evil person? I’d argue that we’d still think of him as evil.

Abby

I love the humor. I still want a HTC tumbler that says shit on it. Referring to you knocking over your drink during a Delphi live.

PonyGirl

Happy belated birthday!

Lauren and John Matthias

You cannot lead with love unless you learn to love before you learn to lead.

MyssiAnne

Hey Lauren Happy late birthday! I use to get massages from Tina Johnson, the ex wife before I moved. Have you been able to reach her for a possible interview? Let me know if I can help you get in touch with her.

Alisha Kc

Happy Birthday 🎈🎂

Sharon Ashcraft

Happy birthday Lauren! You share a birthday with my youngest child!

Linda Barney

What about damage to the frontal lobe?

Cathy

Happy Birthday! We share a birthday....

Maria Albanese

HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY, LAUREN! 🎂🎉 Love these Patreon chats… always feels like I’m a fly on the wall in your living or dining room with you guys… beyond worth the monthly subscription! Thank you! 🙏🏼

Domsmom725

story was not truthful. In wish you would have talked more about when he lived with his Odaho family. Were they the ones that put him in foster vare

Cynthia Jagneaux

That guy

Cynthia Jagneaux

Thank you Becky! My birthday was the 17th

Lauren and John Matthias

we are working on an updated book club and will hopefully have info soon!~

Lauren and John Matthias

Thank you so much for including first responders, showing them empathy and understanding the sense of humor they have! I am wife of a Police Officer who has served for over twenty years, my son is a Police Officer and also my nephew! 👨🏻‍✈️ Hope you had a great Birthday Lauren!🎂

tina hutchings

Yes that is her! And I love that she was so memorable for you❤️

Lauren and John Matthias

Happy Birthday Lauren. This topic is something I have wrestled with everytime I hear of a brutal murder. Is the person Evil, Mentally Ill, Insane? What drives someone to torture, kill or dismember another human being. Wouldn’t a person have to be “crazy” to do such a thing or are they just evil?

Kay Yorn

I am curious if I met Grayson at Nashville CrimeCon in 2024 ? The Grayson I met was working the booth of a true crime podcaster and I so enjoyed visiting with her and sharing stories .. just curious .. I haven’t met only met one female Grayson and it was a great memory of CrimeCon !

Christy Aiken

First, happy birthday Lauren. 45 is a good age. I'm a the few past that now. Second, my granddaughters name is Gracen. I really like that you mention bearing witness. I think that is so important.

Lisa Grey

Happy Birthday!

Sheri Woody

Lauren you crack me up!!!😂😂🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 I try to ignore my birthday and don’t really like it to be acknowledge 🫣🫣🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂

Gleebart

Happy birthday Lauren! I think it great you announce it’s your birthday!!! Way to take charge of your special day and just put it out there! 🤣 I also think a very unique part of your work is you truly get to know the victim families with great empathy and help them to make sense of the absolute horror they are experiencing. You help them to start to heal. ❤️🙏

Vicki Ferrari-Connelly

HBD!! I freakin’ love your approach!

HL

Happy birthday, Lauren. Having read the document attached to your most recent u tube, (SR), I think we found evil. No doubt, the daybells and Sarah Boone could also be characterized as such. What must go on in the minds of evil people is a mystery to us. I'm guessing it's the opposite of what most of us think about life. Life is a really great idea. I chose life. Glad you have a new editor. Looking forward to hearing more. Since we seem to be in a trial lull can we expect some analysis of past evil doers?

Carla Perkins

I know, for me, I can say definitively a few things about evil: it's not a scientific term, it shuts the door on further exploration, and it's a binary term. Also, it's generally used with contempt and prejudice. Good show!

Matt B

Happy Birthday Lauren! Mine was the 14th! Capricorn's rock!

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

Thats what i do !!! Start day one of my birthday month!!!

maria dog mom

😂 Happy Birthday Lauren

Marcella Able

Happy belated birthday

Ariane Dehm

Happy birthday! Graycn is sassy 🤣 I saw the title and was like, this has been discussed so much! 😆 I can attest to the dark humor too. I say things that if you didn’t get my background, would traumatize others. I make sure to know my audience.

Valorie Dodart

I love that you guys are laughing 😃...if you don't laugh you will cry is my motto

D. Haskins

Happy Birthday! Cheers to you , Lauren and the newest member of HTC ! Loads of luck , Grayson

Renée Price

I think your new team member is going to generate some interesting conversations!

Jennifer Preston

Happy Birthday to you, Lauren.❤️

Karen Rose

Has the book club been discontinued?

Karen Rose

Happy Birthday Lauren!!!

Young

I think the main question to me is, do they get pleasure out of what they are doing? If the answer is yes, then I believe they are evil. There are so many factors to consider in this question. But if you emit their mental health, the way they are brought up etc and ask yourself what did they get out of it? I could be totally wrong but that's how I try to determine if someone is truly evil

Samantha Hughes

Happy Birthday Lauren 🥳🩷

Teisha Lingo❤️

Happy Birthday, Lauren!

Hope4All

Serial killers are evil.

Truffles

Happy Birthday Lauren! I’m currently in Honolulu, Hawaii so hopefully I got this birthday wish in on your actual birthday. Although, I’m confused. January 16 or 17? Either way, you look younger than you are and you so DESERVE the happiest birthday ever and I’m sure your guys made sure you felt like queen of the day. 💗🥳🎂🎉

Becky Davis

Happy Birthday! Hopefully you had an amazing day! IMO, one of the most evil people in recent years has gotta be Leticia Stauch. She killed Gannon in such a terrible way then tortured his family for weeks with lies and accusations towards everyone else. Zero empathy. Zero remorse. She really, truly thought she was smarter than everyone else and would get away with his murder.

Rebecca Hayes

Happy Birthday 🎂 🥳

Bradie Barton

Happy belated birthday!

Ruth Claessens

Happy Birthday Lauren! Hope you have been having an awesome day!🎁🎊🎉🎂

Nikki

Happiest Birthday Lauren! 🎂🎁🥳🥳 Welcome Grayson! Evil by Evil doers So many things to address, Nature vs nurture Why do evil doers do evil? Generational trauma, sexual abuse, physical abuse, drugs/alcohol, hate, traumatic brain or physical injury, verbal abuse, emotional abuse, control, mental illness, selfishness, narcissists it goes on and on. We are all born innocent? If you have a dog and love it and only treat it positive and feed it and give it affection and care about its every need it will love you back. On the other hand if you have a dog and kick it and starve it of food and affection and fight it with other mean dogs. You cage it and yell it and abuse it, it will learn to bite and kill. I think we all ask why, I think that is for me at least what makes me interested in true crime. No empathy, no self control, no conscious, what makes these people hurt and kill? Especially their spouse and children, people they say they love? Children?

Kay Louise

Happy Birthday, Lauren!

Lisa Layne

And Happy Birthday Lauren. And lucky thing Grayson has the DREAM JOB. And love and sympathy to Lauren for your loved ones. And thanks to all x

Yvonne Bennett

Happy Birthday Lauren 🎂

Trial Junkie

John had a really good book on his bookclub which changed my paradigm 'On Evil' On Evil : Eagleton, Terry - Books. So great. Evil isn't a legal term nor a psychological one - it's a religious one.

Yvonne Bennett

Happy birthday Lauren!!!! Hope you enjoy your day! I’ve been reading some books written by Holocaust survivor Dr Edith Eger recently. Would definitely recommend - like Dr John said it’s important to bear witness so we don’t forget what hatred can do.

Bonnie Ybarra

I absolutely love the way you own your birthday! Good for you!

Beth Kallaus

Happy Birthday!

Margaret Frank

I’m so sorry ❤️‍🩹

Lauren and John Matthias

HAPPY BIRTHDAY 🎂 sweet Lauren Matthias my your days ahead be filled with the wonder through your childhood eyes!! I am thrilled you hired someone to keep you and Dr. J in line (sad it wasn't me) HA! She sounds fun

Moo2

Happy Birthday, Lauren! Hoping you have a beautiful day with your lovely family!!! 💗

Erin Aboudara

Happy Birthday Lauren!!🥳

Star

I'm wishing you a happy birthday dear Lauren.

Claudette

Happy birthday!!

Lauren and John Matthias

Welcome aboard Grayson 👍😊

JenAus

Happy hidden true birthday Lauren!! 🎈💕

JenAus

Here for you Lauren! Have more information for you! All of which is infused with love ! Congrats on your new amazing team member!

Paula Marie Cornell

I learned that babies born cocaine addicted can have brain damage that gets gets rid of their conscious empathy.

Cindy Ginter

Stealing your birthday approach! Have a great one.

Data Lisa

Hilarious. I never thought of telling people it is my bday. Happy bday again lauren. Btw my birthday is feb 9th just so you know. Lol

Cindy Ginter

Happy Birthday Lauren!!!

Elizabeth Lacey

Happy Birthday, Lauren!! Haha! I do the same thing! 🎂🥳🎉

Randy

Happy birthday Lauren hope you have a lovely day spent with Banks and Dr. John, love from Scotland

Samantha Hughes

Evil Knievel is the answer.

Ronald Helm

Happy Birthday, Lauren!!! ❤️🥳

Ashley

Happy Birthday Lauren! Wishing you a beautiful day!

AZ Mermaid

Happy birthday Lauren!! Welcome Grayson! HTC just keeps getting better and better!

Becky Moses-Suarez

Hey, Happy Birthday, Lauren! Mine was yesterday (the 16th) and I always enjoy learning who else was born in January, the middle of winter. Although, I suppose that distinction has less meaning in your part of the country than it does in Iowa where I live. Cheers!

Connie Jones

Happy birthday Lauren! Praying for you and your family. I just lost my father in December so I understand a little bit.

Cat Lady

Happy Birthday Lauren! 🥳

Kat

Happy birthday Lauren!

Elf Mama

Happy birthday, Lauren!

Mary Brooks

Happy Birthday Lauren 🥳🥳 I feel so old explaining how we made mix tapes 🙈🙈

Tracy Wheeler

Happy birthday Lauren and I know you are going through so much right now with your brother and mom. My father died unexpectedly a few months ago at 67 and your strength going through what you are, gives me hope and strength. Thank you!

Jeanette Hudon

Israel Keyes is what I would consider evil

Vala Hauksdóttir

Happy birthday Lauren!!

dontmicrowavecats

I love you guys! Pressing play on the tape recorder, doing your own "mixed tapes"!! Grayson!! 🫶 p.s. Happy Birthday! 🙃

Turbo

January is a HUGE birthday month in my family on my father side there are 5 of 7 siblings who have birthdays in January 🎉🎉 And my mother will be 70 years old 24 January 🎉🎉🎉 Me and my sons one the other hand are Me March 14. My oldest son March 18. Middle son July 6. Youngest son November 16.

Vala Hauksdóttir

Hope your birthday is loads of fun Lauren

kim Johnson

Happy birthday Lauren! Hope it’s fabulous ❤️

Diane L

Happy Birthday 🎂 Lauren!!

Danni Hull

Happy birthday to you Lauren You share a birthday with my father He’s 72 years old today 🎉🎉

Vala Hauksdóttir

Happy Birthday Lauren, enjoy your day! 🍰

Rosie Burns

Free Dutch Bros is the best!! ☕️ Happy Birthday 🎂 🥳 🎉

Elizabeth Thompson

Happy Birthday, Lauren!!! 🎂🎉🥳

Bridget Jeter

Happy birthday, Lauren!

Heather Whittaker


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