Hope On The Street Episode 3 & 4
Added 2024-08-03 17:00:07 +0000 UTCComments
I love that~ I completely agree and I hadn't realized it before you said it, but I think I felt the same way, that to blindly have hope or be told to have hope when everything feels hopeless half the time, felt so superficial and fake, because I don't feel I knew what it was or what it looked like, so to me, it was like being told "just delude yourself into thinking everything is fine~" but ya, thanks to Hobi's candid way of expressing hope and how he wishes to find it and lead others to it through him, and like you said, how realistic and approachable he made it, I have a better relationship with that philosophy. Gosh, now I'm crying again lol. But honestly, if he wrote a book, it really would become a gospel of hope, I'm sure. You honestly cheered me up and gave me an idea of something I can do for myself, because I was just feeling depressed and having a hard conversation with my mom, and I was just feeling very- well.. hopeless 😅 Thank you for your comment. I think I'm going to make something tangible that I can hold onto at times like these and look at. I'm thinking kinda a Hope mood board I think it's called? Made up of lines from his work or quotes he's said that resonate and help me. 🥰
Chels
2024-08-05 23:15:15 +0000 UTCPlus he was the only dancer and very early on was expected to help the others. So he was learning and leading at the same time. So impressive and diligent!
SNBangtan
2024-08-05 22:37:19 +0000 UTCOof crying. I feel the same way. I got some of Hobi's lyrics from Ego tattooed on my arm because that song and that perspective--not punishing yourself for missteps along your path and instead deciding to trust yourself to make better decisions in the future because you know yourself best--really pulled me out of a deep dark hole after law school. I used to resent the word "hope" because I grew up in a rough environment and it felt condescending and hollow but it's become--Hobi has MADE it--a word that moves me. I repeat it during hard times as a mantra, wear it on a chain around my neck so I have a tangible manifestation of it to hold onto...his approach to hope and his example is mature and realistic and accessible and just aspirational enough to make it feel within reach. It takes such a special human to carry all that and to share it. I'm not spiritual at all, please don't misunderstand, but I've come to call his works and philosophies the Gospel of Hope. It's a powerful foundation for a resilient, optimistic, self-assured mindset.
SNBangtan
2024-08-05 22:33:03 +0000 UTCNot finished the episode but I noticed you guys seemed surprised when Hobi said his background in dance wasn’t helping him at all as an idol, and I think that’s a common misconception. I think a lot of ppl not familiar with the different disciplines of dance would think ANY professional dance background would give you a leg up when transferring to a different genre/style, but that’s not necessarily the case. It’s notoriously difficult for street dancers to suddenly switch over to choreography focused dance (and vice versa). That’s bc all versions of street dance (popping, locking, house, etc) are rooted in freestyle. There are no rules beyond the core aspects of each genre. It’s totally different in choreography/the type of dancing idols do. K-pop Idols focus solely on choreography which is rooted in synchronization and performance. Those are basically opposite ends of the spectrum for dancers. I’ve seen many street dancers struggle to even conceptualization themselves dancing choreography (even if the choreo is largely their genre of focus) bc that freedom of movement is removed, and now you have to focus on executing everything correctly, in synch, the way the choreographer intended, matching with all your members, AND it has to be of high performance quality to attract attention. Street dancing is the opposite in the sense that they are able to shut their brains off and just let their body do what feels right in the moment, regardless of how others would grove to that beat or perceive the quality of the performance. To go from street dancing to idol dancing, it’s kinda like trying to corral a wild stallion to try to make it a great race horse. To do so, you’d have to remove much of the freedom of expression in order to teach it the skills, techniques, and discipline required to be a great race horse (if that makes sense). It’s a lot to learn, in a relatively short amt of time, and can cause a lot of kids to question their ability.
Ahjusshi_Brown
2024-08-05 22:01:01 +0000 UTCOh my heart. 💜 I’m so sorry for the pain you face perusing your greatest joy and so proud of your bravery
Wes And Steph
2024-08-05 20:48:28 +0000 UTCit makes me happy seeing you guys enjoy this docu-series as much as i did and understanding the intention hobi had with it along with the album. and i have to say, i love the house genre as well, i think it fits him perfectly and i really hope he gets to explore it even more when he's back!
nessa
2024-08-05 04:14:20 +0000 UTComggg yeees these episodes are my favorites because "I don't know" and "lock/ unlock" are my favorite songs of the album and I enjoyed watching Hobi having so much fun practicing this genres; every time I watch him dance I always think: how can he be so talented??? how is that even possible? and he is so passionate about dancing I admire him so much for going back to his roots and wanting to learn and improve. The fact that this documentary is so fun and entertaining to watch but also so educating, I didn't know that "I don't know" was House genre I was shock! thank you guys for this reaction can't wait for the next episodes <3
Daniela Miño
2024-08-05 01:32:09 +0000 UTCSomething about J-Hope, man.. it feels like of all the members, he's the one that I vibe with at my very being and when he talks about his struggles with masking and conflicting dispositions, trying to navigate who he really is and correlating that to his daily life while also trying to fit a certain standard he has set.. it resonates hard. I honestly couldn't have imagined a better person to represent hope, because it's all well and good to have a sickly over-optimistic candy-covered individual who can only see the bright side, but it doesn't feel genuine and it doesn't inspire respect that can literally save a person from themselves, but when you have someone who has a naturally dark disposition, someone who can be hypercritical of themselves and those around them at times, someone who constantly questions themselves and life and even their interests, someone who doesn't have that light all the time, but then they decide to create their own hope, using their light to guide others while they walk blindly in fear but can't show it, it just inspires so much respect and love for that person. If I could only give a hug to one member and tell them "you work so hard" and "I see your struggle, your efforts, you got this" or something (times like this, I think Korean and Japanese have better expressions) it would either be Hobi or Joon.. mostly Hobi maybe because he's always being so strong and upbeat for everyone around him, that I wonder if maybe he doesn't get encouraged as much as he needs. Anyway, I'm in my feels today I guess lol long story short, when I look at Hobi while he's being his adorable goofy self and being so optimistic, I see Hoseok inside, doing his absolute hardest to be everyone's light when he's probably not feeling so great that day. Maybe he didn't sleep well, or maybe he's in a slump, maybe he's overthinking something he's working on, or maybe it's just one of those days, but I see that man and feel more respect for him than I have for anyone else. 🥹 (And just to cover my bases, I know he's not likely down and out all the time, but I just mean, I see those times and recognize he has those but we can hardly tell because he doesn't let it show and I think it gains so much respect from me because I'm someone who crumples to the floor in fear when I can't see the path ahead. I easily buckle under stress and refuse to move forward, grudgingly depending on others to guide me, and Gods know I can't hide anything or inspire even the sun to move a shadow, but I wish I was like Hobi in that. I wish I could be someone who could help others even while I'm drowning) ....was this too heavy of a comment? 😅 I dunno, I just felt overwhelmed with love and appreciation for him when he was talking about how he kinda fakes his happiness instinctively and thought back to how he uplifts everyone even during times that we know he was hurting and was probably filled with the doubts he was talking about. Doubts like "why do I do this? Do I even enjoy it? Does it make me happy?" But doesn't let that stop him from being there for others when they need him. Gah.. I love him. I love them all so much 😭💜
Chels
2024-08-04 19:47:28 +0000 UTCKyaaa I'm so excited~~ I'm curious how different it will be solo
Chels
2024-08-04 19:14:15 +0000 UTCyess!! I meant to comment about that as well but forgot haha. Run Jin starts on August 13th! We don't know how many episodes yet but it's going to be so much fun :)
Lela
2024-08-04 17:38:37 +0000 UTCnot sure if you guys know this but jin will be releasing 'run jin' next week!! this man has been working hard filming new content for army😭
nylecoj
2024-08-04 16:11:03 +0000 UTCLast comment--When Haknam was telling Yugson about j-hope's dance background, it was kind of a glimpse into the perception of idol dancers in the dance world. Just like how our BTS rappers were initially looked down on by rappers who weren't in the idol world, I think the dance world doesn't tend to think of idol dancers as "dancers" in the same sense either. Mostly because idol dancers for the most part, just learn choreo and execute it and there are plenty that aren't trained in dance outside of the idol world. And the idol dances tend to be more about synchronization and presentation than actual technical execution or dance education. So, an idol dancer may look great on stage with choreo but not very many of them can really cut it in a freestyle situation. They're not "professional dancers" who dance for love of the craft. (But that's not to say they're not great at dancing. Like there are so so many talented idol dancers.) So Haknam defending j-hope's dance prowess by saying "he does hip hop and popping and was even a street dancer" was a way to give j-hope some credibility in the eyes of a dancer who thought he was meeting with an idol. Idk how much Yugson knows about that world but it's a common sort of tiering from professional dancers. So I assume Yugson heard he was meeting a member of BTS, watched some BTS videos and was thus pleasantly surprised when he met j-hope and found out he was a DANCER dancer. haha
SNBangtan
2024-08-04 05:05:16 +0000 UTCIn one of your first reactions way early on, Wes said that j-hope reminded him of an old movie star dancer like Gene Kelly because he was so expressive and fluid and I use that comparison a lot, too, and especially with the House episode. The dance has a lot of different elements including b-boying and salsa, but it DEFINITELY has jazz and tap and musical theatre elements too, so when Hobi's dancing House, I see those old tap dancers, too. So once again, Wes is taking the words out of my mouth. haha
SNBangtan
2024-08-04 04:39:52 +0000 UTCWes hit the nail on the head. The Hope On The Street album is an OST (original sound track) for the Hope On The Street docu-series. Each song was made for a specific style of dance. And the lyrics of that respective song represent the theme of the episode. So the song "Lock/Unlock" was written in a style that you could dance Locking to and the theme of the song's lyrics and Episode 3 (where they cover locking) are about how Hoseok feels like he has to lock up some parts of his life and unlock others depending on what his circumstance calls for. j-hope has such a beautiful artistic mind. It's so HIM to weave so many levels of meaning together in his project. He's always thinking so deeply about what he's trying to get across.
SNBangtan
2024-08-04 04:29:29 +0000 UTCSorry this is gonna be a really long comment & a lot about myself LMAO 😭 House and locking are two of my fave styles of dance ever (outside of ballroom, modern, ballet etc.),, I used to do many different dance classes as a child, from like age 5-14 or something I did from ballroom to street to freestyle to breakdance to tap, and during street we covered a ton of styles, I LOVED dancing house and locking!! Sadly I'm disabled in my feet and legs (also affects my hips and back) so it was pretty painful, I'd have to take breaks for surgeries, I just couldn't execute some moves correct in a technical sense and eventually had to give it up because I just couldn't do it anymore (I did it in a way in which I did exams, I ended up getting up to my gold medal in street and not super far in tap bc that was REALLY hard, I can't stand on my toes or my heels and have very little felixability in my ankles + really poor balance etc.) But dance as a whole is something I'm so deeply passionate about, giving it up was truly one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. Watching this docuseries but especially the house episode makes me so emotional cry a bit because it just reminds me of that sheer joy I had for the dance, house is really hard on me because it's a lot of footwork and jumping but it's SO fun despite that. As I get older my mobility keeps deteriorating anyway and the pain just gets worse and doctors have said I'm guaranteed to develop arthritis in my ankles by my 30s-40s and will likely become a wheelchair user (already need to use a walking stick really) so since I only have 10-20 more years of this level of mobility I'm tempted to see if I can find dance classes around me that don't focus on competing and stuff and would cater to teaching me in a way I can execute with my limitations because man I love dancing and I want to be able to dance as much as I can before I can't :') I don't drink or anything but I LOVE clubbing with friends because it gives me a space to dance, ofc I don't do specific styles or choreography or anything but having that outlet to dance at a level I'm able to, knowing nobody cares if I'm doing it well or not, is one of my fave things ever. My friends joke that they go out with me to get drunk and just watch me dance because they think it's entertaining how extra I am lol 💀 locking is actually easier for me in a sense because one of the iconic moves is purely done with your arms and I often do it just when I'm sitting around because it's so fun lol,, anyway bringing it back to hobi- I will often cry watching him and jimin specifically when dancing because they execute such passion for dance (and do the types of dance I adore) and it really reminds me of myself, I love seeing that passion in what they do, it's like I can't really dance like that, I never really could, I never really will and eventually I won't be able to dance much at all so knowing there's people out there that LOVE to dance, dedicate themselves to it and really feel it just makes me feel so happy, like they're out there doing for themselves but in my eyes it can feel like they're also doing it for me where I can't, does that make sense? Idk I love this series deeply, it's like yugson said, dancing is our past present and future, it's one of the few constants in the whole of human history, something that connects us and brings us together just like music itself, I think hobi did something truly beautiful with this series 💜
Gurocandii
2024-08-04 00:17:13 +0000 UTCTbh I only watched this docu initially for Hobi but I was really (pleasently) surprised with what I learned about street dancing :) I knew about the different styles like popping and locking but I guess I never really thought about/knew how diverse they are and that they all have their own history like that. I guess I thought of them more as different dance moves before. So I ended up liking this documentary way more than I anticipated :) Also I LOVE lock/unlock - the song just makes me happy and smile :)
Lela
2024-08-03 21:52:50 +0000 UTCYugson seems like such a cool and wise person. I love that he and j-hope got to talk about those topics (slumps, losing passion…) despite the language barrier. Yes, house dance looks so fun! The amount of jumping around they do seems exhausting though haha. Glad you’re loving this series as much as I did, it really is so educational
CC
2024-08-03 21:12:21 +0000 UTCThem not realizing RM's still life kekekekekekeke
Ghosting👻
2024-08-03 20:23:39 +0000 UTCGuys just want to point out that when they're freestyling, they're not necessarily sticking to one genre or the main genre of the episode.
Infinite Ree
2024-08-03 18:29:21 +0000 UTC“Locking seems like it has a sense of humor to it” well said Wes! This is sooo true of locking!! Especially with certain dancers who bring the comedic feel to locking, you honestly can’t help but smile when you see that! I watched a show called “the street dance of China” and that was when I saw how fun locking can be! I personally feel like locking is the funnest(?) funniest dance genre of all of them!
Keziah Boamah
2024-08-03 17:51:31 +0000 UTC
