Vinland Saga S2 Episode 12
Added 2025-01-02 18:00:10 +0000 UTCComments
Thorgil best son.
Armando
2026-02-27 00:26:14 +0000 UTCI love the story you guys used about David and Bathsheba, but I think it is Nathan who told David not Samuel.
Phillip Edwards
2025-03-25 15:14:34 +0000 UTCTo add on a month later to the convos, I can recall a few great kings. There's Sejong the Great of Joseon (Korea); he led the way of korean culture, and created modern Hangul (Korean alphabet). He also funded universities and education, leaning towards a merit system rather than a inheritance/neptoism system. There's Jayavarman VII of the Khmer Empire (Cambodia). A Buddhist monk king who helped drive off invaders and stabilized his kingdom. He focused mainly on theology, and building temples afterwards. Lastly, there's Emperor Taizong of the Tang empire (China). Many emperors tried modeling their rule from Taizong reign. He expanded the Tang dynasty and it stretched it's influence so far, they had contact with the Byzantine Empire (around 600). His time was considered an Golden Age of Chinese culture. He even believed Jesus was a Taoist Hero and Confucian Sage. Very tolerant to other religions.
Bobby Vang
2025-02-14 19:15:24 +0000 UTCIt could be a genuinely true story, but most of the time in history rulers adopted and spread a religion for political gains above all. To unite their people under a more "legitimate" rule, or to fit in amongst their newly conquered subjects (were the conquered people already buddhist?). Ultimately, we will probably never really know in his case.
Fabien
2025-01-09 19:08:50 +0000 UTCAll great points!! Especially about Alexander the Great I had never thought too deeply about him
Wes And Steph
2025-01-08 00:30:02 +0000 UTCGreat point!!!
Wes And Steph
2025-01-08 00:26:36 +0000 UTCThank you for sharing!!! It’s a powerful story!
Wes And Steph
2025-01-08 00:25:08 +0000 UTCawesome stuff, i didnt catch that so thanks for pointing it out
Harrison Hird
2025-01-05 10:12:34 +0000 UTCJust want to contribute to the convo I don't really know much history,but where I am from there is a story of King Ashok the great,who was not the direct heir to his father but His father was a king and then Ashok was the son of one of his wives who was of a lower class,Ashok still got the throne and was known for conquering and winning every battle,He was a warrior king,But what's interesting is that history doesn't remember him for his war achievements. Rather there is a story about how after conquering another battle,that was the most bloody and the biggest battle of his life he just had some kind of epiphany while staring at all the people he and his army murdered,He then converted into a buddhist and is known for having a change of heart and then spreading budhism in his remaining life as a king.
Vishwa Joshi
2025-01-05 07:19:45 +0000 UTCHey Wes & Steph just wondering if your going to be reacting to anymore of the Makoto Shinkai Movies (Maker of Your Name) like Weathering with You this year?
Kai Kage
2025-01-04 00:26:56 +0000 UTCThe problem with asking about moral and just kings in history is that it's assuming that history as we know it provides any accurate enough account for us to be confident. It could be that there have been plenty of moral and just kings that just ruled their kingdoms and worried about the prosperity of their people without conquest. This must have happened in quite a few times and regions of the world since there are civilizations that entered golden ages without much conquest. There's also the issue of survivorship bias that the kings and rules that we do know about are the ones that really cared about leaving a legacy. Alexander was a good example of this being notable in history for bringing along people to create propaganda for him contemporaneous in his conquests. Most people know him through this propaganda, and the average person who isn't a history buff don't realize that he completely inhereted a ready-for-conqueest Macedonian millitary, generals, and even the war tactics he is credited for using. If you think about it, it's the narcissistic rulers that were obsessed with legacy and those willing to spend big chunks of the wealth of their kingdom on vanity projects like monuments who are best remembered, because they spent their efforts towards self-aggrandizement. The few great administrators like Cyrus are remembered mostly because he was the founder of the Achaemenid Empire, and future Persian empires and nations benefited from that legacy. Modern day Iran certainly doesn't seem to care about Cyrus's beliefs about religious tolerance, for example.
Nam Le
2025-01-03 11:43:42 +0000 UTCThe question about a moral king is difficult because morality changed over time and it would be mainly "moral for us nowadays". There were "honorable kings" (by most records) who went to war of conquest just because it was the thing to do as a king back then. We wouldn't consider them "moral" by our standards. I think it's not good to consider morality too much when it comes to history (even if it's natural to do it to some degree), that's probably why in the end it's the accomplishments of a ruler we remember the most. By the way Ivan the Terrible was a competent monarch actually (to some degree), but it's a rare example of a ruler so cruel even for his time that his very bad character is what we remember the most. Which explains the name.
Fabien
2025-01-03 10:22:12 +0000 UTCI hope you guys watch 86 some day. It's basically attack on titan with mechs but imagine Levi and Armin as duo protagonists. It focuses more on the racism and survivors guilt aspect of war as oppose to AOT cycle of vengeance. Its based of a LN so it takes its time telling the story but you guys would love it
DocGreen
2025-01-03 08:40:19 +0000 UTCDo you suppose Canute didn’t factor in Ketil’s family because he’s so divorced from his own? I can’t imagine many Norsemen would forsake family (Clan) over crown.
Rare
2025-01-02 23:01:11 +0000 UTCI’m not religious but I love your perspectives on this story. The human condition is so complicated but we’re bound to it forever. Personally speaking, my perspectives are from a Buddhist pov, with some materialistic cynicism. People can live and die by the sword on their own accord, but I still hope for something better. In regards to pacifism, I think this story handles it quite well. I think the author himself knows its limitations and the enormity of the effort required. I’ve also read the manga so I may be a bit biased on this season, but it sets up even further questions and hopes. Glad to see you engaging with this material as much as I did!
Rare
2025-01-02 22:58:08 +0000 UTCOh yeah, love that show. Silver lining in shades of grey.
Rare
2025-01-02 22:48:25 +0000 UTCThe sunset is the lost love. It is a callback to when Canute realize that the sun, the wind, the snow and the mountain is true love. Back then Canute is looking toward the sun as well while weeping. It is quite a cool callback, since he say it as the sun set away as in the love is lost.
James Jaya
2025-01-02 21:36:36 +0000 UTCRanking of Kings ?
Rockycitygirl
2025-01-02 19:52:01 +0000 UTCOlmar was supposed to kill the first guy and then get killed by his friends, Ketil would have been arrested and blamed by association
Josh Ashford
2025-01-02 19:11:25 +0000 UTCThorgil is smart in the way of conflicts and schemes, because they’re part of war! Not as dumb as he looks
Adam Young
2025-01-02 18:36:52 +0000 UTC
