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August Box Peek Update

It's the last day of the month, and according to my calendar that means it's time to talk Box Peek.
Progress Update: Episode 5 is coming along smoothly, though at the same time I'm still behind where I wanted it to be. Easy Livin' and Spider-Man together may have cost around one week of Box Peek production, but at this point I'm learning to just be fine with that. (Also no promises but I'll try to get a supplementary Spider-Man video up on the Supplementary Video Embargo (which is separate day from the review embargo) and that's the last I'll say about Spider-Man until I'm allowed to talk about Spider-Man) I gave myself a late October debut target because I thought that would be achievable and the good news is that I'm still well on track to get there. I might maybe possibly push to November, but that's more of a matter of whether I'll be emotionally prepared to premiere or not. It's kinda scary. Look forward to a solidified Box Peek Season One premiere date in September's post. Originally I had planned to post the first and second episodes on the same day because I felt the premiere would feel less exciting, waiting a whole extra week after getting a video you've mostly already seen. However, now that Season One is only five episodes long it seems too rushed to burn two in one day, in addition to being something YouTube's cold and uncaring algorithm hates. Amanda had a great idea though: We're going to re-premiere Episode One two or three days ahead of Episode Two, creating a kind of special launch week. Episodes 2, 3, 4, and 5 will all premiere on the same day of the week at the same time, and we have yet to figure that out too. Lastly I am planning to delist the preview version of Episode One, Lucas style, but if that's a big no-no let me know. I think it would just be cleaner and less confusing to have one version of Episode One available.
Production Stuff: This month I want to talk more cutting and adding lines. I touched briefly on pickups--audio reshoots basically--in the June update, in which I said "Yeah just one for this episode, I nailed it" and then went on to record like ten new lines for Episode 4. It's been an unexpected and unique aspect of this project for me.
The reason for needing pickups in Box Peek basically fall into these categories:
- That sounds bad - Audio continues to be my least favorite part of Box Peek production. The sound of a microphone crackling or peaking or puffing fills me with such inner rage that I have to step away from the computer for a sec. Re-recording a line is the last thing I want to make someone do, but sometimes there's no other option.
- Whoops we forgot to record this - Sometimes a gasp or laughter will be written into the action of the script and we glance over it since we're just looking specifically for lines. It's embarrassing to write an email to Amanda saying "Hey can I just get a gasp?" but ultimately even little gasps are important.
- Wait that doesn't make sense - This is my most frequent issue. Example: Box Peek matches were originally written that both competitors would already be closed in their boxes when the countdown began. In making the first episode I quickly realized it's a much more interesting visual to see both opponents stare each other down as the Peekref counts off and then duck into their boxes on the word Go. This hadn't changed how any of the matches played out right until Episode 5, where things got a little weird. Fortunately a minor rewrite of one line patched up that particular incongruity, but this kind of thing happens all the time. Also, there will be times when I have to change a prop or scene as I'm actually drawing them out because I remember I'm dealing with paper puppets who have no lower halves, and I'll have to get new lines for those situations too.
- I have a funnier idea - These are my favorites. A weird part about recording and editing and puppeteering every line of this show is that I also have to consider each and every line many times. Some things will make me laugh from writing to recording to drawing to shooting to editing; those feel really good. Through this same process, the boring and bad jokes get exposed. It's why they tell writers to just put anything down when you don't have a better idea--it's actually much easier to come up with better punch lines and buttons now that I'm months detached from the original drafts. It should also be said that a lot of funnier ideas came naturally through the performers recording lines, whether they're just improvising good stuff or I'm feeding them new lines to try out. I should make the audio recording process its own post.

To me, cutting lines is just as important as adding lines. I believe that every scene should be as short as it possibly could be, so I've been chopping. Chopping in rewrites, recording, and mostly during editing, when you finally have a real feeling for a scene's pace. So far monologues have been the easiest place to find extra fat. It's funny, I think I truly learned to love this part of editing while producing segments for Live with YouTube Gaming, where I was given a hard time limit to fit all my stupid jokes and critique into. In my Final Bosman days I'd say "No no this ep should really be 20 minutes or it won't make sense" but at this point I take great satisfaction in chiseling minutes off of a video. So far I've cut out a lot of lines, but not a single scene. For all the production miscalculations I made during Box Peek, I was at least very thoughtful about minimizing scenes and locations to those that are absolutely essential. If you're interested in all the stuff that didn't make the cut I am planning on releasing all the scripts once the series has concluded.

This is a long post. (Could use some edits) See you again for another Box Peek update at the end of September! As always, thank you for your continued patience and encouragement.

Love & Respect,
Kyle

Comments

I think you should keep the original first episode up in some form. Also to help with the algorithm re-title the video "Box Peek Pilot". Personally I want to see the changes and improvements you've made from the pilot, to the final version.

maybe unlist the preview episode 1 and put it in as a link in the description of the premiere episode 1?

I really appreciate the depth these posts go to, Kyle. Always interesting. Box Peek hype!

DancingElk

That's a really good idea

Easy Allies

That's extremely interesting and a great tip

Easy Allies

I still watch the first episode every week. The moment Jordy throws the cement block out the window was when I was hooked. Hot damn the detail on it was awesome!

Grazooka

Thanks for the update Kyle. I agree it makes sense to delist the original.

It makes sense to delist the original. However, I demand that unnecessary changes be made to the new upload through the addition of CG background characters.

ZeoVGM

Thanks. Looking forward to the spidey content too (after I finish the game =p)

I agree with this. Mainly because I'd prefer the old link that I sent to so many people to still work in the future.

Joseph Caruso

I think delisting the original preview of episode 1 is appropriate. It's a good reason to rewatch episode 1, even if it just being great is a good enough reason on its own. Thanks for keeping us all updated! It is neat to hear all the little behind the scenes things that you don't realize are happening :)

Brittany Fuller

I love this peek into the production box, keep up the good work!

Mark van Dijken

Thanks Kyle

Make the Early Preview version unlisted, but put a link to it somewhere.

TurboChickenMan

Suggestion: when everything is said and done, release a patron exclusive bonus feature video like you find on DVDs or blu ray with any juicy cut audio or video work!

Matt Brookbank

If you have time, I think before Episode 1 gets reposted you shoule make some sort of video annoucememt (a trailer perhaps?!) For the release schedule. I think the plan is great, but I could see 187 comments of "Wasn't this already uploaded...?"

Very exciting. Let it cook.

Darren Mifsud

Box Peak - Episode One: The Phantom Edits

Gerred Evatt

Its really cool being able to read the process thanks Bosman keep up the good work.

Blade Kasper

I'm working on recording an audiobook, and I feel you on the microphone sounds. I never knew my mouth made so many little clicky noises. It's brutal. Keep up the good work, man!

keithbungle

Really happy to see these episodes are almost ready for prime time, looking forward to it.

Fascinating!

ZatVunDoot

Delisting preview is fine but keep it somewhere Mr. Lucas

Brogan Trull

Thanks for the update! Love hearing about your process. I am fine with de-listing the first episode. Or maybe make it unlisted but still archived somewhere.

LeeLore

Hey Kyle. It’s a part of my job at work to actually track voice records and pickup sessions for our show. Director usually tries to get the cast to do various “walla” takes whenever they can, usually at the beginning of a season. Gasps, wahs, laughs, sighs, rabble rabble, coughing, etc etc. Label it by character and the type of sound then bank it away for whenever you need it. Once the season is done, take whatever extra walla appeared from scrips, isolate them, label it, and bank it in your library. Then you’ll hit the ground running for season 2 with all the other assets you’ve already made.

M I K E Y M O

I think delisting the preview is fine! Also love these stories in this post!

Alec Church

You’re doing great Kyle thanks for the updates

A Joker Fan

Not personally a fan of the delisting idea, keep it around for posterity's sake and all that, but if it's for the sake of keeping everything clean I get it. As long as it's still available in some form (ex a hidden feature on the website or even just a link in the description for the updated Episode 1) it's all good.

I love hearing about the process of you working on Box Peek, and the things you love about it and the things you don't like so much. It's really interesting and just makes me more hyped to see the finished product :) Love the updates and excited but waiting patiently for season 1 <3

Keep it up, man. The finish line is within sight.

In regards to the preview episode, if you wanna de-list it, it could be cool to have the unlisted video accessible through the Easy Allies website as a sort of bonus feature. It'd keep the YouTube more clean and, unlike Lucas, would still preserve it for posterity's sake.

Thanks for the update! Please do not forget to have some merch ready for the launch. I understand You have ton's of stuff already on Your plate, but i feel like this is super important !!

You are doing a great job sharing this progress with us. Thanks and keep up! 😃

Super excited to see this. Adults being kids is my favourite. And you’re doing a great job! The creativity and passion behind this project is something I strive for! Thanks for making this little series!

You are crushing it Kyle.

Eric Clyde

Hope it doesn't sound condescending to say I'm really proud of you. Proud of and inspired by you.

See You When I Get There

I think delisting the OG Box Peek episode would be fine :] Keep it up dude, no rush! 😎✨

TAHK0

I love your passion! Here's to more lenghty posts.

Mikehook1

It's posts like these that make me happy to be contributing even a small amount towards this endeavour. Do I wish for it sooner? Yeah sure, who wouldn't! But the care and attention to detail you write about Kyle makes it worth the wait. Kudos to you, and keep fighting the good fight. Love and respect!

Chaeotic

I'm literally more hyped for Box Peek than RDR2 and Spider-Man combined. Thanks for the update, Bossy!

Tyler Travis


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