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Friend Code Ep 34 - Main Topic Vote

Unfortunately, the news for Nintendo since the Direct has been non-existent. We already covered the online stuff to death and no much more to say on that, and I don't think any of us have put any time into Dragalia Lost (or at least, I've had no time to try it out, so I can't lead a discussion about it). Other than that, there's a new trademark for Monpoké that we have no idea about, and that's really it.

So I have three ideas for us to do on this week's episode, which will feature Bosman and Brad as the two panelists joining me. Please vote on which you'd like us to cover.

Rank the Original 3 Super Mario Bros:

We will rank Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 2, and Super Mario Bros. 3 after answering Patron submitted questions challenging us to defend/argue the quality of each game, and then after we will individually assign a score to various categories for each game. The games are then ranked by the averages of their scores.

React to Bowsette Fan Art (SFW)

After seeing that Nintendo officially considered the notion of a Peach Bowser in concept form (according to the Official Super Mario Odyssey art book), we'll collect a bunch of SFW Bowsette (and related) art and critique/discuss if we think they could make the cut as an official character in the Mario universe. For that, we'll be using the Miyamoto Scale, which is how likely it would be for Miyamoto to allow the character into the Mario series. We'll take Patron submitted questions on Bowsette to sprinkle in between each piece of art.

Rate Your Theoretical Nintendo Achievement/Trophy

There are some who want Nintendo to finally embrace achievements/trophies. So we want to know what type of Trophy/Achievement you'd come up with for your favorite Nintendo games. This can go all the way back to the start of Nintendo's video game endeavors up until the most recent Switch and Mobile releases. We'll give you our thoughts on if they're good enough to make the cut, but also come to a consensus on how rare of an accomplishment it would be. Patron submitted ideas only, though each of the panelist will share at least one idea they have and the other two will rank it.

I'm opening this up to everyone as the podcast is not just Patreon only, but the question/idea submissions will still be reserved for 5 dollar and up Patrons.

L&R,

- Damiani

Comments

I would have seriously considered lowering my sub amount if they did

Really happy that peach/bowser meme didn’t win. Here’s hoping by next week it finally falls off the cliff into internet oblivion.

NowHoldOnaMinute

Damn upset bowsette didn't win. You guys should do both if you need to fill time in the podcast!

hsapin

Disappointed that Bowsette wasn't picked! I would love to her the allies opinion of Bowsette!

MaxVSTheGames

If you do talk about Bowsette, I do hope you give mention to Booette as well

Karl Williams

I feel like the Bowsette stuff would be more topical and relevant, because who knows how much longer it will last, but I kinda want to see what kind of system Nintendo would use. Would it be like trophies, where you're getting a trophy for getting trophies, or like achievements, where you just get a number score?

James Rodriguez

I love that you have to specify SFW with Bowsette fan-art

mikkel hervel nemmøe

Pacifist Plumber: Beat Super Mario Bros. without harming any enemies. True Hero: Beat Super Mario Bros. without breaking any blocks. (Instruction manual says those are citizens of the Mushroom Kingdom turned into all that weird stuff.)

MBUN

Beating Bowsette...that's the power of Trophies for ya'

ToiletDrummer

ACHIEVEMENTS - do it for brad!

I'm definitely pro Bowsette, but I'm more into the concept and the scale that will be used. Love those kinds of discussions

Mhee12

Beat Super Mario Bros without collecting any mushrooms. I’d definitely go for that achievement.

Corey Swafford

Considering how low they wanted to keep the OS in Switch to the point it doesn't have music, I suppose they'll keep it simple until a new iteration of the system. The only thing close to achievements have been the hint art in Mario Odyssey. I do like the idea of achievements working as trophies in Smash just on a system level. I mean with the ease of pulling models from other games the most work would only be adding to the mode to display those models.

Gonzalo Ruiz

Achievements look like a boring discussion. [BotW] Collect 100 sapphire, complete all shrines, beat 5 lynels. collect a star shard in less than 3 minutes. [Odyssey] Find all the secret coin stashes. Complete all Toadette achievements. Complete X mission without jumping. All in all, IMO few achievements are great, most are mundane and some ask you to play the game with a handicap. While Bowsette hype is ending the niche will persist. I could see a mention in a Mario and Luigi game. I wonder if the allies could compare that with other fan characters like Eggette, or how Linkle did found a way in Hyrule Warriors. Also the mention that Nintendo considered something similar for Mario Odyssey. Still I suppose it's fair Bowsette and Achievements are so close since at this point they have the same chances of either happening. Hehehe.

Gonzalo Ruiz

SMB3 > SMB1 > SMB2. What else is there to discuss?

Tanner Rienhart

I think the concern is we think the Bowsette meme is on its last legs, and the time to capitalize on it is ending. Either we do it now on Friend Code (if it gets voted in) or its not going to happen while its relevant. Honestly, we should have done a video for this last week. I think the Trophy/Achievement thing is a fun topic and personally I'm rooting for that one to win. - Damiani

Easy Allies

This is not really a take on an individual trophy but ways Nintendo could actually deliver them. I could see Nintendo's take on trophies in a few different approaches. Each would be unique enough for Nintendo to claim it as their own "Nintendo like" approach. I was really bummed the WiiU did not take advantage of the stamps unlocks on the Miiverse as it would have been an awesome way to carry over achievements to other games. Like getting 120 stars in Mario would be a star stamp you could use on any Nintendo board. As an award visual or theme I could see badges and ribbons being used. Each game would have a board or even a scout sash that would pin the awards on as you earned them. I could also see Nintendo using an shelf/amiibo like interface where maybe cards are the trophies and the platinum would be an amiibo like figure on a virtual shelf.

Zugdar

The fanart idea would make a great separate video, maybe? Love the Miyamoto scale. Could grab Kyle and spend 10 minutes on it?

Samuel Cardwell

The achievements idea sounds the most interesting as a podcast topic. I honestly think we could rank the first three SMB right now in 30 seconds. Arguing between 3 and World is the more interesting discussion, and even that has been argued to death. While Bowsette has turned into a fun little craze, there's not a ton of interesting stuff to discuss solely focused on Bowsette, but if the conversation was opened up further to discussing wishes and aspirations for the Mario franchise's underappreciated side characters and possibly enemies in future games and such, maybe that could be an interesting episode to do in the wake of Nintendo disrespectfully "powering up" Toadette by giving her a Princess Peach body in her first playable appearance in a mainline Mario platformer outside Super Mario Run, unless you actually count Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker as a Platformer, but who would do such a thing? Would include topics like why did the enemy Spike suddenly become a character the devs decided to make playable in spinoffs like Party and Tennis? Who's the next Mario enemy to get their own Amiibo? Will we ever get a full game starring Bowser or his legion? Does Waluigi deserve to appear playable in Smash? Is the panel satisfied with where the Luigi, Wario, Yoshi, and DK branches of the Mario franchise have extended to, and if not then how would you improve them? Beside all that you could work Bowsette in with topics such as is it time for Bowser to finally move on from his romantic obsession with Peach, does this mean Nintendo should introduce a Queen Koopa, and how could this kind of shakeup effect the age old plot and formula of new mainline Mario games? Maybe I'd getting too ambitious, but I'd also like a brief history of Toadette, Peachette, and Bowsette discussed if this episode were to happen for people to fully understand the journey these characters have taken to Bowsette becoming the explosive trend we've seen the past week or two. It really is damn interesting how one artist's joke comic led to tons of popular professional Japanese artists drawing their own takes on the character, which exponentially exploded the whole thing in such a short time with the double cherry on top being finding out there was a strikingly similar design originally planned for Super Mario Odyssey, although among different circumstances. All of that is simply more interesting than laughing at some fanart.

MBUN

Impossible not to hear this in my head in Brad's voice

Connell

Nothing in this world could be better than having you guys talk about Bowsette

Logan Tawse

Thanks Damiani. I have no issue with Bowsette personally, but I listen on the bus while I play switch, so it's audio only for me. Bowsette does bring in clicks of course! Could be another video?

Connell

Super Mario World tops all 3 combined.

Achievements.

Dennis M.

If it is a very close win, I will strongly factor in that I didn't realize this is also just an audio podcast to some of you, and that the other two topics are better suited to both an audio and video podcast. - Damiani

Easy Allies

Please don't do bowsette, I only listen to the audio version

Alec Dyer

With Brad I've gots to go with option 3

Oh god please not bowsette

Jeremy Ferris

No to Bowsette. Not only does it take the meme and race it ever closer to being over exposed but Friend code is also an audio podcast. What he’s suggesting doesn’t work audio listeners. Voted achievements

Greg Kettering

Achievements: they could bring back Miis and tie game specific costumes to in-game achievements. Wearable trophies! Imagine playing Mario Kart online and someone's Mii blasts past wearing an amazing Monster Hunter helmet.

Connell

Oh god. Anything but Bowsette. I hope Brad is in on this if Achievements wins.

Jose Gutierrez


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