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Talking Simpsons - The Last Temptation of Homer With Gary Butterfield

This week we're joined by Gary Butterfield from the Duckfeed.tv podcast network for a tale of Homer struggling with desire. After Mindy Simmons joins coworkers like Stuart The Duck and Large-Hand Man, Homer finds himself attracted to her in a story that takes a lot of finesse from the writers. As we look back on that potential infidelity, we also note our memories of being nerds in elementary school just like Bart, so grab some prune juice and hard-boiled eggs for another classic retrospective podcast!

Talking Simpsons - The Last Temptation of Homer With Gary Butterfield
Talking Simpsons - The Last Temptation of Homer With Gary Butterfield Talking Simpsons - The Last Temptation of Homer With Gary Butterfield

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Henry! I didn’t realize you were a fellow lazy-eye-haver. That was absolutely the number one — possibly only — thing I was regular teased for as a kid, so I loved this episode back then when Bart briefly shared in my pain. I even asked both my mom and ophthalmologist if glasses could fix mine like they did Bart’s and was told mine was caused by my brain, not my muscles (Optic Nerve Hybpoplaysia to be exact) so no dice. I did have an eye patch at one point, but I was a baby and don’t remember, and my mom tells me it’s didn’t last long because it’s hard to keep an eye patch on a baby.

Kat Heagberg

First I would like to admit, did I miss the way the simpsons used to draw sexy women. As a kid, I always felt confused about this episode, I think I was around 7 or 8 years old when it aired, however going back to this episode as an adult, I sometimes think that maybe homer did sleep with Mindy. of course, with growing amount of 34 art to support this at the time, but recently I have stumbled upon a comic that places mindy and a void, caused by the radiation from the plant and seeing alternate realities of Homer and her get it together. However as of right now, it's unfinished, but it is progressing well with random updates.

Fei wong fong

I feel your pain on the depth perception, it’s essentially non existent. I’m always in “cartoon” mode so to speak. My visual field is essentially dominated by my left eye. And my body has a very “left first” approach to things because of it. I’m constantly being told my guesses for how far away something is is way off.

Andrew Giachetti

I had surgery to correct my amblyopia when I was four years old. It mostly worked, in that my lazy eye went from really bad to only slightly noticeable. My depth perception is still awful, though. Things like magic eye, 3D movies, etc never work for me.

Dan Vincent

Groening used nom ye range kyo in Life in Hell, so I always assumed they were paying homage

Obvs Ofcourse

As a frequent traveler for work, the free soaps and shampoos are definitely getting more scarce. One benefit to traveling that much though, is (at least with Hiltons), they give you daily credit that you can use. When we stayed in Tokyo and Osaka, we cleared out the minibars and didn’t pay a thing! Also, re: room service, when I was getting per diems of $75/ day, I’d eat all the free food I could find - free hotel breakfast, free airline or airport lounge meals, etc and keep that sweet, tax free per diem for myself. Now that I have a corporate card and a daily limit, you better believe I spend up to that limit as much as possible though.

Chris B

according to the mayo clinic, it seems like treated is best before 7 but between 7 and 17 can still be effective. Recurrence seems to occur in about 25% of cases. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/lazy-eye/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20352396

Andrew Giachetti

oh I must have misread if, idk where i saw laser in that post, my bad.

Andrew Giachetti

It wasn't laser surgery either time. I'm not sure if there is any laser surgery options for a lazy eye. Her surgery, as far as I understand, involved going under the eyelid and essentially stitching the muscles back to pull the eye into place. I think they tried less invasive means when she was really young (lets say kindergarten, but also young enough that she doesn't remember it), but none of them worked. And then overtime, her eye began to return to its original position and she had the same surgery again at 23. The aftermath is the area around her eye was a little puffy, but otherwise pretty normal. There's no cutting through the skin or scars associated with it.

Joe Hodgson

My hospital uses pneumatic tubes to this day. I feel like health care is the last bastion of fax machines as well.

Shawn Frieler

That's super interesting. I also have a lazy eye, but it was more or less fixed when I was a super young kid, but an entirely different way. I just shared the story, because from my perspective and what i learned in school, there are some version of some conditions that if caught super early, can largely be corrected, essentially though different kinds of therapies. If you don't mind me asking, do you know what age that laser eye surgery happened at? I think for me, laser eye surgey was only just starting out and I was super young, so it was treated through a series of eye patches, and it more or less worked. And what I had learned from my doctor and in school was that you could do that kind of stuff on kids for a lot of different things. So am I really curious to hear the other side of the story and see how it compares. I still have my lazy eye, but its very minor and old without my glasses (or if I am drunk).

Andrew Giachetti

In reference to Henry's comment about "lazy eye not being so easily fixable in the real world" I actually have relevant personal experience here. Let me start by saying 2 things. First, I can only speak for my personal condition and others who have conditions like mine. 2. At Bart's age, its highly likely that his lazy eye would not be so easily fixable. However, some ocular conditions (and other developmental stuff), like lazy eye, cross eye, etc., can actually be "fixed" in children pretty easily provided they are caught early enough (US healthcare does suck, off course). And I mean like like early early, 3-5 years or sooner old kind of stuff. I was born with a pretty severe lazy eye. I am nearsighted in one and far sighted in one eye. As result, my one eye compensates by going inward and i look cross eyed (I'm literally the dude in the monty python sketch who puts his hand over one eye to see better). However, this is only when I don't wear glasses and its honestly so minor you cannot tell unless you really look at and know my face. As kid though, I was basically Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys. The way it was fixed was super easy though, I had to wear an eye patch over my strong eye, so that the muscles in my weak eye could develop enough to focus correctly on their own. It actually worked too well, and i had to wear an eye patch on the other eye afterwards for a little bit as well to get things evened up. This was about when I was three years old. If you think its cool for a 3 year old to have an eye patch, well, this was much less pirate and much more "giant painful bandaid over half your face". Eventually my parents figured out that if they put the bandaid on my glasses instead of my face, it worked the same way without any pain. So, all of that is to say, that for some conditions, if caught early enough, you can actually treat it pretty easily in children. Kids are so plastic that you can actually fix a surprising amount of developmental stuff if caught early enough. So for someone like Bart, he will more than likely have a more prominent lazy eye, though assuming he's somewhere around 10 years old, if I recall correctly, he still may be able to see some improvement. That said, take what I say with a grain of salt. I am primarily speaking from my own personal experience, however, i do also have a masters in cog neuro, did research in a child development lab, and used to work a ton in early education on top of my personal experience. I no longer do that kind of work though.

Andrew Giachetti

I would probably say that this IS one of my personal top-10 episodes (top 15 at least?) because of how many jokes are burned into my brain. I love the entire elevator sequence between Homer and Mindy, but my favourite part of that bit is Homer yelling when he sees her, and then trying to save face by saying he meant HELLO and yelling the first part of it, it's SUCH a good line read from Dan. I am also one of those people who has one of Marge's ruined t-shirts, and I wore it when the day of this episode to celebrate!

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

Agreed! I feel like hocus pocus wouldn't get so much hate if it wasn't so popular. It's not a great movie but it's... not horrible. It's fun!

frysjackett

My wife has had troubles with a lazy eye so she can certainly attest to how difficult that condition is to correct. She had eye surgery as a kid to correct it, but apparently that sort of thing can ware off and she had to get it done again while we were dating, hopefully for the last time. Per her, the surgery isn't bad and the recovery time was basically taking it easy for a weekend. As someone who wears glasses and could get that fixed with laser surgery and chooses not to, I would have a hard time getting corrective surgery for a lazy eye. Something about eyes just freaks me out and I can't even do contacts. On the plus side, neither of our children appears to have inherited her condition. I love this episode. Joey Joe Joe is my handle in many online spaces. It was even what my much younger cousin called me for a little while, not because of The Simpsons, but just because that's how she heard my name when she was a wee one. The episode is a bit unfair to Homer as it's like the universe is conspiring against him in order to get him to cheat on Marge, but it's just funny and Michelle Pfeiffer kills it in her role as Mindy. It's one of my most rewatched episodes of all time because the jokes land so well and I'm very glad that Gary was the guest for this one and got to enjoy some classic Simpsons while he was here.

Joe Hodgson

I always wondered if the similarity between this episode's premise and the plot of Age of Innocence (married man tempted by Michelle Pfieffer) was purposeful or not.

Ian Stratton

I love when an episode has a joke hidden in plain sight, particularly a sign gag. The spelling of Madame Chaos gets me every time and also totally appropriate for the chaos going on in Homer’s brain this whole episode

Matthew Hughes

Not sure if you guys have seen this, but the Video Game History Foundation has an online archive and some of it is Simpsons-related. I haven't picked through all of it, but one thing that blew my mind is the full model pack of season 1 characters. There are also apparently dialogue tapes of the actors for various games: https://archive.gamehistory.org/folder/205c628c-5d0a-4de8-a5a5-782f31706ac0

Vance Jericho

C’mon, Bob - Hocus Pocus is a fun Najimy flick. She’s also plays Jon Lovitz’s wife in Rat Race that coined the term “Prairie Dogging it” which I still use to this day

Carlos Hernandez

Wow you played a promo from my childhood fox affiliate in Huntington WV

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