TalKing of the Hill - Little Horrors of Shop
Added 2025-03-17 04:00:03 +0000 UTC"You see, this is why we do shop: not to be more popular or to get into college, but to sand, and drill, and chisel things... for our moms." - Hank Hill
Hank and Peggy butt heads (and possibly butt joints) when a forced vacation takes Hank down a new path in life—one that makes him a shoo-in for the Substitute Teacher of the Year Award.
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Yeah, I think she just runs really fast and causes a bunch of destruction along the way.
littleterr0r
2025-03-26 06:14:05 +0000 UTCI could have sworn I’d seen it in Project A-ko also, but no. I ended up watching the whole thing—just an exasperated pre-school wake-up, but no toast running.
Solario
2025-03-25 21:43:49 +0000 UTCTV Tropes calls it the "Toast of Tardiness". I think the first time I saw it was in Project A-ko or Ranma 1/2, but I could be misremembering. My wife first knows it from Sailor Moon. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ToastOfTardiness
littleterr0r
2025-03-25 16:04:45 +0000 UTCThe decay of public education is so heartbreaking. I grew up in California, where prop 13 basically dealt a death blow to education funding. I think I got a pretty good education, all things considered, but each year since prop 13's passing has meant the state's public education offerings have continued to whither with no replacement funding ever being implemented, all so corporations could buy up huge swathes of land and pay as little in property tax as possible. The city I live in now just had several school closures, which is devastating to a community and puts further strain on what still exists because you now have to bus kids further away from their homes to attend, crowd more children into existing facilities, and make do with fewer staff, so years and years of training and expertise are lost. Investing in public education is, in the long run, the cheapest and most effective way to combat poverty and drive an economy, but I also believe it greatly facilitates in the creation of a more just society. And since capitalism cannot function in a just society, investment in education is the easiest thing to cut.
Jonathon
2025-03-24 17:46:46 +0000 UTCSailor Moon, Maison Ikkoku, and Urusei Yatsura all contain prime, pre-EVA, early examples of “toast running”. It seemingly resonated with Rumiko Takahashi—I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s in Ranma ½ too, but I can’t think of any examples 🍞🏃🏻♀️💨
Solario
2025-03-21 09:10:58 +0000 UTCPeggy's "Mrs. Hank Hill" has to be a reference to the finale of the 1954 George Cukor version of A Star Is Born. Even Najimi's delivery of the line mimics Judy Garland's "Mrs Norman Maine." It's very Peggy to blatantly steal a reference, and I'm surprised they didn't make a joke about her claiming it as her own.
Davidandwaffles
2025-03-20 23:26:27 +0000 UTCI can't believe I'm getting "I can't believe you didn't mention"ed by my own wife - Bob
Talking Simpsons
2025-03-19 20:20:40 +0000 UTCHenry (regarding Being John Malkovich): "I think I saw Nina on her Letterboxd for it say something akin to working in the 'in between' floor of the building is how it feels to work in an office when you don't want to be there" Just wanted to say I never said that. Heck I wouldn't know, as I've never worked in an office in my life (and hope it stays that way!) Despite it being my favourite film of all time (why didn't you mention that Bob??), I haven't yet logged Being John Malkovich on my LB since I haven't seen it in a few years. Will fix that eventually since I FINALLY got the Criterion Collection blu-ray (my first time buying a CC). I'm actually curious whether it'll still be my fav since I've seen waaaay more movies now. We'll see.
nina matsumoto
2025-03-19 18:31:04 +0000 UTCSorry but I don't want to go on a podcast to talk about menstruation
nina matsumoto
2025-03-19 02:26:25 +0000 UTCLiterally cannot wait for them to do Aisle 8A. I hope they bring Nina on for it!
Anna Mansager
2025-03-19 02:20:25 +0000 UTCyeah it appeared a decent number of times pre-evangelion , by the time eva got to it anime/manga were already subverting/lampshading it's over use. magical girl shows seem to do it A LOT
slimesiren
2025-03-19 01:19:15 +0000 UTCAs with most anime tropes, the origin can be traced to a shoujo manga from the 1970s that I only found out about from Google just now (“Tsuraize! Boku-chan”)
Kaelan Ramos
2025-03-18 23:42:52 +0000 UTCGreat episode. As a woodworker and KOTH fan, I always think of Hank's "...to sand and drill and chisel things.. for our moms," line when I do a project for my mom. After all of the hours I have spent listening to you guys while I doing woodworking in my garage, it feels right for me to chime in with a slight correction / tidbit. A rabbet plane is not named for its' resemblance to a rabbit but because it is used in cutting a joint called a rabbet-- a groove at the edge of a piece of wood that another piece of wood can slot into. Hank wouldn't want a student to leave the plane blade side down because that is a good way to dull or chip the plane blade-- which are generally kept razor sharp. Hey, maybe principal Moss had a point about not wanting kids running around the school with razor sharp tools after all.
Mister Joshua
2025-03-18 23:34:25 +0000 UTCIf I may comment on Butt vs Miter joints, it really depends on the situation. I'm not sure what use-case that reddit comment was referring to, but considering they mention use of both plywood and two by fours, I assume it's a more structural joint that probably won't be seen much, if at all. A butt joint is when you just take the two factory-edge pieces of wood and "butt" the ends together, then glue, screw, or nail them. It tends to not look as nice as other methods of joinery, but it's quick and easy. A miter joint is when the ends of two pieces of wood are cut at a 45 degree angle then pushed against each other, the best examples being trim around a window or door, or baseboards when the meet in the corner. It takes a little longer to make, and can be tricky if you don't get those two angles cut correctly, but typically looks better.
Andrew Bouvier
2025-03-18 22:28:48 +0000 UTCAs a fan of the Boondocks, I'm only now learning that the scene with Grandad playing the bongos was inspired by Matthew McConaughey
Nathaniel
2025-03-18 13:08:05 +0000 UTCI think most of your critiques of Dale could be summed up with the soundbite "That's the joke." Everything Dale is doing is wrong. He's bad at his job and dangerously stupid. We have subterranean termites in the northeast and they can be treated with drilling, trenching, or baiting with an external bait stations that's buried in the ground. Baiting is the most common method these days with trenching thought of as old school. Some standby drilling, but it's riskier for the exterminator because you could hit a water line or damage the foundation if you're not careful.
Joe Hodgson
2025-03-17 21:19:08 +0000 UTCNot sure how common knowledge it is, and it probably varies from state to state, but most don't require anything above a high school or GED to substitute teach. I live in Massachusetts where you need a master's degree to be a fulltime teacher (or enrolled in courses towards one if you're fresh out of school) and even here they only require a high school degree. They're always hurting for substitute teachers so I think that is the reason for the relatively low standards. More surprising to me is that a degree isn't required to be a paraprofessional or to work with children who have severe disabilities which I would have thought required more focused training, but those are positions with high burnout and they're always looking for more. I had to take shop in middle school, but not high school and I kind of regret not taking it. I bought my grandfather's house after he died and he had a legit woodworking shop in the basement. I helped him from time to time and I've built stuff, but I only know the basics. I have so many types of saws, nail guns, sanders, etc. that I don't know what to do with. It's pretty overwhelming, though I like that it's there because chances are if I have a home improvement project that I need to do I probably have the tools for it. I just have to figure out where they are and how to use them. Thankfully, my dad is pretty handy so I'm not completely lost at sea when something comes up. This episode makes Peggy out to be such a villain that it's a bit of a hard watch for me. Not because I care how she is portrayed, this is just an episode where she crosses a line into being so unlikable that I can't find her funny. I just want to see her get some sort of comeuppance and there isn't enough of that to sate me in the end. And with that said, I do think it's a good episode and I like seeing this side of Hank, it's just an episode I don't like to revisit all that often.
Joe Hodgson
2025-03-17 21:12:57 +0000 UTCOut of all the regrets I have from high school, never taking a shop class is still my biggest one
wildlandblazer
2025-03-17 16:23:35 +0000 UTCIf you'd recorded a few days later you would have gotten to see Adrien Brody give his second "memorable for the wrong reasons" Oscar speech, including telling the producers to stop trying to play him off.
Erin Hardy
2025-03-17 15:39:53 +0000 UTCHank clearly hasn't listened to the teachings of Dennis Leary who taught me that Marijuana doesn't lead to other drugs, it leads to carpentry! Also as someone who works in pest control Dale's treatment bothers me. First he says he's treating for one, possibly more termites. Now this is probably a Joke because termites are a colony insect and the presence of one would mean there would have to be more. However after finding one he would still need to inspect the house to confirm the presence of more and to determine the best possible treatment. Second he is using a tent for a spray not a fumigation. Fumigation is when you seal off an area then introduce a gaseous chemical for a amount of time that will suffocate or poison the pest. It is dangerous and very precise. Now I know Dale is bad at his Job but he would not be in the tent without a respirator or he would die. Thirdly the spraying that he is doing isn't going to solve the problem. Just spraying chemical on the walls and all over peoples personal affects isn't going to be safe or effective. The insects are going to be in the wood and ground and will not come in contact with much if ant of his pesticide. Now I will admit I don't deal with termites in Minnesota but I believe the proper treatment would be to treat around the foundation by drilling into the ground and injecting a residual insecticide to better target the colony and create a better barrier to prevent future infestations.
Matt Hansen
2025-03-17 15:26:27 +0000 UTCI do feel Peggy’s pain with the four-year degree requirement. I only have an associate’s degree but was an adjunct and department chair at a college at one point because of professional experience (true story that the pay was so low that they forgot to Pay me for two semesters and it took me that long to notice) but I can’t even substitute teacher Kindergarten in my state (the same state where I was a department chair) which is kind of wild.
Kat Heagberg
2025-03-17 14:24:34 +0000 UTCTechnically, Hank does go on to teach a High School Propane Class in the Flying Hawaiian episode in the next season, although it's just a filler class just to get David's GPA high enough so he can play football.
Patio
2025-03-17 13:37:43 +0000 UTCMy read on Hank's business call at the start is that it was in fact a business call with a customer, he just enjoys talking about propane so much that it counts as personal by his metric.
count
2025-03-17 13:02:01 +0000 UTCThe first time I saw the anime main character toast run was in sailor moon. Never really knew it was a trope until waaay later.
frysjackett
2025-03-17 12:48:44 +0000 UTCIzombie was awesome
Frank Grimes
2025-03-17 11:16:32 +0000 UTC
