BYE SISTER Part 4: Litigation, Lewd Behavior, and the Legacy of the Lipstick Nazi
Added 2025-01-06 20:29:15 +0000 UTCIn our final chapter of the Bye Sister series, what began as vitamin gummy fodder takes a turn for the darker. In examining who sinks and who swims, Kat and I seek to uncover enduring truths about online homophobia, mobs, the media, and Halo Beauty’s proprietary blend.
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This was wonderful, you and Kat bring me so much joy. One of my fav quotes and pearls of wisdom from her to this day is “Chappell Roan is not the government”. Looking forward to part 5 of this series next year
Liam Dummer
2025-10-27 07:52:56 +0000 UTCJust binged allll these episodes in one evening. Fantastic, loved it, felt like I was back when it all happened.
Rebecka Gransten
2025-10-01 20:54:08 +0000 UTCThank you for my bye sister fix 😆
Asmaa
2025-09-20 12:33:35 +0000 UTCI love when you guys get together, because its simultaneously two gay best friends spilling the tea and also like, comprehensive journalism.
Adam
2025-08-14 22:29:40 +0000 UTCLuckily we live in a time in which Judith Butler COULD comment on Jeffree Star
Chloe
2025-08-01 01:23:23 +0000 UTCMaybe this is cynical, but I feel Tati choosing to share her story about being sober was done when it was to specifically help re brand and re frame her in everyone’s minds. A way to welcome her back into the public and make everyone sort of forget what she actually did. I’m happy for her, it’s great. But literally everything these people do is curated and calculated. And all of these people have spent the entire time since this has happened trying to re write history. I’m glad yall did this series because it needs to be remembered so everyone who comes into their orbit has this information and knows exactly what they’re dealing with when they choose to support these people.
Emeraldgreen373
2025-07-04 16:00:37 +0000 UTCOnly have an hour left in the finale. Already sad that this saga is over. What a gift the two of you have given us. #blessed
Libba Moore
2025-06-10 18:30:17 +0000 UTCI could listen to 4 more episodes on bye sister!!
Holly Hoenke
2025-05-06 12:13:36 +0000 UTCthe thumbnail for this vid is wild 😭😭😭
Leela Wolgemuth
2025-05-04 05:06:02 +0000 UTCThis is the first media I have consumed since I left an inpatient setting and it has simultaneously made me hysteric and calm bless this sacred page
Qriz
2025-02-16 22:15:22 +0000 UTCIt's sad but not surprising that Jefferey is now exploiting animals :(
Kristina Garfinkel
2025-02-08 03:14:03 +0000 UTCI joined your patreon for this story, and it was so worth it! I feel sorry for Tati. I guess she wasn't aware that psychological warfare is one of the great queer cultural achievements.
Ululagadata
2025-02-03 13:56:41 +0000 UTCOmg Michael Hobbs! An absolute dream team
Melissa Godsey
2025-01-27 07:30:58 +0000 UTCI finally got the chance to finish this series and it was so excellently done. Kat's insider knowledge was such a great edition to this conversation. One thing I took away from how Bye Sister is remembered today as an artifact as Trump's first term, it was one of the first big culturally conservative events that infiltrated into otherwise left-leaning spaces. Tati's homophobic rhetoric gave bad actors permission to perpetuate those homophobic ideas under the same guise that QAnon people do, and popularize it among a younger, socially liberal audience that was receptive to MeToo and LGBTQ rights and create this rift by turning those ideas on their heads. It's the same logic that put people who might even call themselves feminists on Johnny Depp's side. And the fact that people STILL think "Tati was right all along" is only more evidence of how much more bigoted conservative ideas have seeped back into "mainstream" culture. Not to say they fully ever left, but they have become re-normalized after the social changes that happened in the 2010s. Bye Sister was one of the first big examples of these reversal.
Natalie Rogers
2025-01-24 01:58:00 +0000 UTCMICHAEL HOBBS? THE VERY ONE?
Ashley Paul
2025-01-19 17:54:12 +0000 UTCGreat episode!! One thing to note about the Isaiah allegation that I found very odd and actually makes me question his narrative is that he initially states that their first point of contact was on Snapchat and then later pivots to saying they initially met on instagram. If I am remembering correctly his age was listed on either his instagram or TikTok and he really only made this pivot once people started questioning his side of the story. It’s a small detail that has MASSIVE implications because him having his age displayed on a social media account where the conversation didn’t take place, isn’t clear evidence to me that James knowingly interacted with him under the above pretence. You are both absolutely right in saying that the water got so muddy that no one knows what is real and what isn’t.
M
2025-01-16 13:25:47 +0000 UTCHow? Did I not know any of this insanity happened????
Valerie Blackbird
2025-01-16 01:15:58 +0000 UTCI just got your patreon only to watch this series and it was soo worth it😭🥰🥰i loved it so much!! Also, also Kat is amazing, please keep luring her to your house with celebrity/influencer drama. Btw James Charles is now doing Tiktok Livestreams playing Roblox. Thought that was an interesting turn of events😭
Elisa Luzia Simon Bigdon
2025-01-15 23:13:07 +0000 UTCGasped out loud about the Michael Hobbes crossover event
Alaina Uricheck
2025-01-15 17:05:10 +0000 UTCOmg omg just finished amazing of course!!
Amelia
2025-01-14 13:30:36 +0000 UTCI am SO ready
Carla Sibson
2025-01-14 12:40:21 +0000 UTC#yakmeatpivot
Marnie Wingett
2025-01-14 06:02:23 +0000 UTCNOT a Burleson, TX shoutout!!! I live 30 minutes from Burleson in the county right next to it. It is indeed pronounced “Bur-luh-sin”. And yes— VERY red over here. My friends and I are a little lefty speck!
Lauren Witte
2025-01-12 15:54:04 +0000 UTCfor all FOUR parts to be out when I finally take the patreon plunge? iconic
Grace
2025-01-11 23:59:10 +0000 UTCI can't believe I listened to all of that and still feel (hope?) that in some perverse way it isn't over...
Ido Gonen
2025-01-11 18:07:45 +0000 UTCThis was so much fun to listen to! And fantastic ending!!!
MargaretCalazans
2025-01-11 07:30:02 +0000 UTCThis was so good!
James G
2025-01-10 02:10:53 +0000 UTCI am disgustingly invested in this, thank you for ALL of it!!
TeuchterByTheSea
2025-01-09 20:26:22 +0000 UTCwhen I tell you I could not give a single fuck about any of this or any of these YouTubers and yet I have been fully invested in all 1000+ hours of this tetralogy
TC Priest
2025-01-09 15:09:17 +0000 UTCListening to Michelle Phan and Tati talk was somewhat triggering in a way. It felt so similar to abusive Christian talking points.
Vincent Forkner
2025-01-09 13:26:19 +0000 UTCLow key sad this saga is ending. I was absolutely consumed by dramageddon and reliving it with you two as hosts was somehow even better. Yes this was the reason I subbed to Patreon 😂 but I can't wait to see what's in store for 2025 🫶
Nakita Sherman
2025-01-09 02:16:16 +0000 UTCThank you so much!! I so appreciate your capacity for nuance and critical approach it's such a joy and journey to listen to!
Julia Jung
2025-01-09 00:46:53 +0000 UTCyours and kat’s dynamic is perfect, i’m laughingggg along with you two
Sarah
2025-01-09 00:38:47 +0000 UTCSame
Matthew Baker
2025-01-08 20:56:06 +0000 UTCwas also bullied on myspace by jeffree let it be known!!
Ruby
2025-01-08 10:32:51 +0000 UTCi used to listen to jeffree stars music..... i was young and scene what can i say. But if you want to see the people jeffree was surrounded by look up "bewitched" blood on the dance floor and watch that video. I dare you, you may hate me later
Ruby
2025-01-08 10:31:37 +0000 UTCOh my god shane looks like onision in those thumb nails. I can't believe he has reached that far down low. Does anyone else remember the drama between the two?
Ruby
2025-01-08 10:25:11 +0000 UTCalso, great video, as always, thank you so much 💜
Chiara
2025-01-08 10:18:26 +0000 UTCI‘m sorry but my biggest question is: WHAT PROJECT ARE YOU WORKING ON WITH MICHAEL HOBBES :D
Chiara
2025-01-08 10:18:08 +0000 UTCI've been a fan and an Instagram follower since the beginning, but the commentary of the Bye Sister saga is the very reason I subscribed to your Patreon and boy, oh boy was I not disappointed! I feel something bittersweet now that this is over... Thank you Matt and Kate, I could listen to you for 70 more hours. This was indeed a journey ❤️
Chicca
2025-01-08 09:17:24 +0000 UTCI just marathon-ed this entire series and loved every second! This was sooo well done
Tayler
2025-01-08 01:56:14 +0000 UTCSo jealous you get to go on a vacation with Michael Hobbes. Please just podcast the whole thing! I never was into Beaty YouTube but even I watched James Charles’ receipts video. Thank you for this masterpiece!
Chelsea Anderson
2025-01-08 01:46:27 +0000 UTCI subscribed just for this series then binged the entire thing in one day while doing all the housework I've been putting off for weeks...incredible.
Molly
2025-01-08 01:18:51 +0000 UTCOH MY GOD DIRTY BURLY MENTION!!! this is so wild LMFAO
Abigail Doyle
2025-01-07 22:44:54 +0000 UTCI really enjoyed this wrap-up & takeaways to end the series. Would LOVE a part 5 detailing the effect of this on how the internet perceived the Depp/Heard trial 👀
Emily Ostrander
2025-01-07 18:59:47 +0000 UTCThat's what my initial thought was but I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing anything. Thanks :)
Sajl Salim
2025-01-07 18:09:41 +0000 UTCi won’t lie, i feel kind of emotional at finishing this series 😭
chita
2025-01-07 18:03:02 +0000 UTCJeffree Starr is Jay Gatsby if Jay Gatsby was a sex offender and a racist
emma
2025-01-07 17:44:29 +0000 UTCYESSSSS AT LONG LAST! Bye Sister Explained is one of my favorite genres and this series might be the best I've ever seen ❤️ I will say, though... I don't think this gamification of dunking on public figures (and watching sub counts go down, etc) was first done in the Bye Sister saga. IMO it's just an evolution of Gamergate and other early "cancellation" fiascos, but this was really when more of the mainstream got in on it. Which would make sense given the timing, since 2020 saw the last of the offline normals finally plunge into social media as a main source of entertainment and drama. Not sure if this makes sense! I'm just always fascinated when a new group of messy people throw themselves into internet mess. Especially during that time when everyone was going completely bonkers from pandemic stress.
Victoria Borges
2025-01-07 17:12:39 +0000 UTCThank you both for all your hard work on this! Such a good time!
Bethanie Trollope
2025-01-07 17:04:06 +0000 UTCIt's the little "Luigi" at the end for me💀😂
Bethanie Trollope
2025-01-07 17:03:04 +0000 UTCImmediately had to inform my loved ones of the connection between Jeffree Star and "the father of revenge porn" 😱 like...the randomness, but of course those two used to hang out....
Hamster
2025-01-07 16:06:44 +0000 UTCJeffrey Starr yak discourse was the highlight
Anna
2025-01-07 13:20:15 +0000 UTCThese videos have been a real joy for me during a hard few months
Anna
2025-01-07 13:18:26 +0000 UTCDef seems like a moral panic
Tina
2025-01-07 13:10:02 +0000 UTCOh my god, thank you thank you thank you!! I was sooo excited for the final part, like.. this was like a netflix series for me and i couldnt wait for the next episode every time! Especially as i didnt exactly manage to catch up with all the drama while it was happening.. You and Kat are amazing together and I really hope you will make another video together soon ♥ Thanks for all your work Matt, we love you ♥
tyn_pet
2025-01-07 10:40:32 +0000 UTCOmg so much I wanna reply to, but first thank you for the satisfaction and best commentary on this possibly ever. I will sayI was not expecting EDB to be a part of this, but I have watched several trials with her gavel to gavel. I thought her coverage on this was really good, albeit super biased. Their business partner tried to claim he rightfully would be an owner in any business Tati would ever have in perpetuity, laying claim to her own name. And he was a best friend of her husband’s for like 20 years, which helps explain how in the end they settled it on their own over the phone without lawyers. From what I recall there were more like 4 Halo Beauty lawsuits because it became a complicated web of Halo beauty itself also as an entity suing its own board members. (I found the shade in the documents about him wanting to start a supplement for ED to be particularly snarky.) The brand new owner of Halo Beauty bought a lemon and got off to a bad start by blocking people including influencers in the comments when people were inquisitive.
femme dandy ⚢
2025-01-07 09:16:08 +0000 UTCNow I'm also excited for the Blake Lively episode! Literally been watching Gossip Girl. I love when Kat is on the podcast!
Riley Bartlett
2025-01-07 03:04:44 +0000 UTCOmg matt is fully joining the MCU!!! (Michael hobbes cinematic universe)
Mian Osumi
2025-01-07 02:59:13 +0000 UTCOMGGG
Mian Osumi
2025-01-07 02:58:24 +0000 UTCMatt, after the absolutely ultra-shit day I've had, seeing this notification was very, very welcome. 💜 Thank you to you and the team. 💜
Valerie Blackbird
2025-01-07 02:33:06 +0000 UTCThis was so good. I LOVE the episodes with Matt and Kat!
Lucy Newman
2025-01-07 02:31:42 +0000 UTCYou guys bring me SO MUCH JOY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICES OF SLEEP ETC.! And ohhhhh my goddd you and Michael hang time sounds so fun!:)
Amelia
2025-01-07 02:18:00 +0000 UTCMost people probably wouldn't become surrogates (edit: for strangers, not talking about surrogacy for friends/family) if they didn't need the money, so there is a point that capitalism is coercing them into putting their bodies through pregnancy and labor. But I think people who single out surrogacy as uniquely bad but don't have much to say about all the other bad things capitalism forces people into, just hate gay people becoming parents.
Sev
2025-01-07 01:32:27 +0000 UTC"He all of a sudden is just posting picture after picture with his yaks? He has, like, hundreds of yaks. Sometimes he rides them." This is the most hysterical thing I have ever heard all on its own but if you take it out of context it sounds like "yak" is a euphemism for something (idek what, choose your own adventure) and it just gets progressively funnier and I may never stop laughing.
funnyletter
2025-01-07 00:52:07 +0000 UTCMichelle Phan referring to reality as “this matrix world” 🤣 😭🪦
Crystaline
2025-01-07 00:38:57 +0000 UTCwe are so back
carrie
2025-01-07 00:37:58 +0000 UTCwait holy shit i'm from the dallas area and i had no idea tati moved to burleson 😭
Sajl Salim
2025-01-07 00:24:49 +0000 UTCseeing this posted after coming back from a gym class that kicked my ass is the best reward 🙌🏻
Laura
2025-01-07 00:12:17 +0000 UTChow is anti-surrogacy feminist? genuinely asking i'm not aware of this at all
Sajl Salim
2025-01-06 23:53:32 +0000 UTComg eating so good in 2025 already
Sajl Salim
2025-01-06 23:52:05 +0000 UTCthe more you know! thanks for clocking!
Matt Bernstein
2025-01-06 23:34:11 +0000 UTCNot trying to be annoying but just a heads up Judith Butler uses they/them pronouns. 💕
Jules Inkwell
2025-01-06 23:30:04 +0000 UTCI want to know everything about Ryland so bad lmao I want Cole Escola to write a play and play Ryland
Crystaline
2025-01-06 23:08:14 +0000 UTCFew minutes in and I lost my mind when you said you're having a "gay podcaster vacation" with Mike, consider me enticed
Mustekalapuu
2025-01-06 23:01:42 +0000 UTCClass acts the both of you!
Jeff Fisk
2025-01-06 23:01:13 +0000 UTC2hrs worth of content omg the best news
calla
2025-01-06 22:43:13 +0000 UTCKAT I am from rural east TN, and recently, driving on the interstate I saw the exact Trump megastore you are talking about. lol., That store is very new and its only there to rub it our faces and scare people. the right WANTS everyone to think the cities are for liberals and the country is for republicans because theyre trying to push us out.
Creamer
2025-01-06 22:03:37 +0000 UTCAnti-surrogacy is not a "moral panic," it's a pretty basic feminist position lol..
helen sinning
2025-01-06 22:00:29 +0000 UTCBut also: please sleep, matt ❤️
Nikki
2025-01-06 21:39:19 +0000 UTCThis gives me life
Nikki
2025-01-06 21:37:08 +0000 UTCWe do need Judith Butler
Nikki
2025-01-06 21:28:26 +0000 UTCOMG YESSS 🥹💕
Heide Wenzel
2025-01-06 21:10:16 +0000 UTCYESSS THANK YOU!
Linnypesto
2025-01-06 20:50:32 +0000 UTCOmg thank you! Obsessed.
Laura
2025-01-06 20:40:03 +0000 UTCSame✋🏼
Simon
2025-01-06 20:32:31 +0000 UTCOmg a historic event🤩🙏🏼
Simon
2025-01-06 20:31:59 +0000 UTCThank you Matt 😍🙌🙌
Ash Carson Green
2025-01-06 20:31:47 +0000 UTCnever clicked faster in my life
meg 🤍
2025-01-06 20:30:48 +0000 UTCLet's gooooo 😍
Cole
2025-01-06 20:30:42 +0000 UTC
