Attack on Titan 4x15 - "Sole Salvation" Full REACTION!!
Added 2021-03-23 21:32:43 +0000 UTC
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It's the reign of the short sighted.
The problem with the thought process surrounding Zeke's plan is two-fold.
A) People will suffer, regardless of Titans. And most of the time, they'll bring it on themselves.
B) He could just, you know, make it so that people can't turn into Titan's anymore, instead of literally making it so that they can't birth children, lol.
Fuckin' idiot.
And on Eren's side of things, "im free" this, "i'll kill" that. NIgga, how many Titan brains do you have floating around in your head? Who do you think is influencing you, you fucking try-hard? Armin could easily turn that logic right back on him.
And in Mikasa's case, who knows? There could be some truth to what he said, but the logic of "oh you just THOUGHT I was your kind, that's why, lul" seems so incredibly flimsy to me. Even as a Manga reader, that stills seems debatable.
All these angry, broken people generating all these short-sighted, vitriolic ideologies. All these Histories so fucked and murky that true history might as well not even exist.
This is such an amazingly human story, it's straight up terrifying. Hitler, Stalin, countless humans throughout time, so broken and hurt seeking only to break and hurt thinking that somehow there might be some measure of peace or happiness or freedom at the other end of Hell. It hurts to watch because that's exactly how it really be sometimes.
AlexXis Amadeus
2021-03-27 01:13:04 +0000 UTC
well the manga is aleady finished if I'm not mistaken, so they just need to adapt the remaining chapters for the anime's finale (not saying that it will be easily done)
xenillith
2021-03-25 02:00:02 +0000 UTC
The idea was to keep the Rumbling as a deterrence until the Eldians die out.
Isaac
2021-03-24 18:10:30 +0000 UTC
and then there's Dr. Stone where Tsukasa's like wipe out all the money hungry and selfish people so that the world will have a good foundation lol
Jerico
2021-03-24 07:51:12 +0000 UTC
I recently just rewatched an episode from Grey's Anatomy where this patient - a male white supremacist with a swastika tattoo on his abdomen refused to be operated on by a black, female doctor. His colleague and partner at work as a paramedic was even a female black person, and they were buddies. Confusing right lol 'cause he said he's not the devil but just justified it as "I'm just a guy with a belief system". He requested to have a white doctor with them during the surgery because he's afraid that the black doctor might kill him intentionally during surgery. The doctor still chose to operate on him, given the circumstances as her way of "rising above". She said that if she refused to operate, which is her right, then that would make her exactly like the patient. In the end, after the surgery, the white doctor that helped operate on him then shared his "belief system" that if that guy was dead, the world would be a better place. Some interesting insight I just recalled from your erase the population part of discussion. I dunno. Sorry the context was long lol but I hope it was something haha
Jerico
2021-03-24 07:15:59 +0000 UTC
There's no clear path to peace and freedom and they are running out of time, but you can't just choose to let your people go extinct. Yeah that would solve the titan problem but it's not like everyone would just live in peace.
Dune
2021-03-24 03:41:52 +0000 UTC
Like your Erwin meme, not too keen on your morals hahah. But yeah the whole argument literally is just a titan sized trolley problem, except before Eren went all John Cena on Marley there was at least the possibility for a third way. Then he literally pulverised that chance
Kc
2021-03-24 03:21:23 +0000 UTC
yeah the cliffhanger next episode is gonna be nasty
Jerico
2021-03-24 01:51:27 +0000 UTC
Grisha yelling at Zeke was so powerful lol the voice actor killed that scene
Javi
2021-03-24 01:43:20 +0000 UTC
Update: It looks like Japan is teasing an Attack on Titan Season 4 part 2 and it's scheduled to be released in the fall. If it's true, then that'll give them plenty of time for the manga to end first and prepare a proper finale.
Now, does this mean we'll get more episodes or will it be a movie? I have no clue. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they just used the six-month break to work on the remaining episodes. That seems to be the logical step.
As to "who will step up to be the hero," honestly... no one. Everyone's a villain in some shape or form. So this series seems like it's destined to have a heartbreaking finale. Almost like Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Just Alyx
2021-03-24 01:00:01 +0000 UTC
Zeke just wants the Eldian children to stop being born.
john Alexander
2021-03-23 23:46:53 +0000 UTC
The animation really made kid zeke so adorable I felt bad for the kid the whole time.
MojoJojoGojo
2021-03-23 23:30:38 +0000 UTC
nah it's chill haha it's the tamest wild comment i've seen :p
Jay rellim
2021-03-23 23:27:05 +0000 UTC
i'm sorry that was a strange thing to say
Hængeklumpen
2021-03-23 23:24:22 +0000 UTC
damn that last sentence is crazy lolol not saying i agree or disagree but it's wild to say you're not human if you dont kill 98% of the world 😅😅
Jay rellim
2021-03-23 23:18:25 +0000 UTC
the premise is fucked up, kinda like that Trolley Problem.
Except you and your familiy, friends, nation, race are on the tracks.
and on the other tracks are the 98% procent of the world, innocent and guilty alike.
you wound't be human if you don't pull the lever, to the rest of the world.
Hængeklumpen
2021-03-23 23:16:33 +0000 UTC
i dont think that was the only message the animation team wanted to send. i mean we saw they just watched the episode and both think grisha was a POS father to zeke and they were also sympathetic towards what he was trying to accomplish. i dont think reminding people of grisha's motives is sending a bad message esp bc the line they cut out is something we already know
Jay rellim
2021-03-23 23:12:46 +0000 UTC
That's super fucked up ngl
Kc
2021-03-23 23:06:43 +0000 UTC
While it is a great line for Grisha's character, I think it would have slightly undermined the message of the episode was Grisha was a POS father. By including that line it helps us sympathise with why he's doing what he's doing to Zeke, which I think would have been a bad message to send.
Totally understand why some people are upset, but think artistically it was a good choice personally
Kc
2021-03-23 23:00:13 +0000 UTC
you know what, i take that back.
I fully support the rumbling, i would never choose to kill of my entire race, it's my right as a human to have kids. i would glady support a plan that could led to the death of billions, if that is my only other choice.
but maybe search for other options first :D
Hængeklumpen
2021-03-23 22:56:08 +0000 UTC
Really? I'd much rather live a full life whilst being infertile than having to die right now. Don't get me wrong it's still ridiculously immoral, but what are their alternatives really? I can't see a way out for the Eldians that doesn't involve global genocide, which is objectively the worst option for humanity
Kc
2021-03-23 22:43:44 +0000 UTC
Falco's family were restorationists and one of them was Grisha's friend (last name Grice) but the Owl was Eren Kruger so not related.
Mahni Alizadeh
2021-03-23 22:43:34 +0000 UTC
agree that they can't make that decision for everyone, but also they don't have any time. Also the whole "there is no greater salvation than never being born in this world" is not something Eren would ever say... he's always about "this is my right because I was born into this world" so idk
Mahni Alizadeh
2021-03-23 22:37:10 +0000 UTC
yeah at that point i just take the bullet lol.
Hængeklumpen
2021-03-23 22:34:04 +0000 UTC
amazing
??
2021-03-23 22:21:55 +0000 UTC
The blonde guy with grisha was falco and colts family "Grice" and I just know the cliff hanger is gonna be mean next week smh
Ky Williams
2021-03-23 22:20:27 +0000 UTC
There's a part in the manga that I wish they kept, though I'm sure they had their reasons, during the dinner scene Zeke says to Grisha that his grandpa said that it was his fault his sister died because he took her beyond the walls. Grisha says what did I do that was so wrong? I just wanted to see the airship. It really shows how inside Grisha is still just a traumatized kid. I mean the whole Jaeger family is.
Anes Ljubuncic
2021-03-23 22:19:19 +0000 UTC
Think if when animals go extinct cause they can't mate with the same animal...not saying Eldians are animals lol but yeah
MojoJojoGojo
2021-03-23 22:13:17 +0000 UTC
The glasses have Titan powers confirmed 😂
MojoJojoGojo
2021-03-23 22:11:37 +0000 UTC
yeah... but imo it's either this or the rumbling which will end with a 'kill everyone else including wildlife except paradis eldians' genocide... which would literally be extra steps bc of all the colossal titans :P
Jay rellim
2021-03-23 22:10:23 +0000 UTC
That just sound like genocide with extra steps...
Hængeklumpen
2021-03-23 22:07:22 +0000 UTC
colt and falco were related to Grice, the restorationist who told grisha the truth about how his sister was murdered. i think they were originally going to kill the entire family, but colt was forced to pledge service to the marleyan military as a warrior candidate to keep them safe
Jay rellim
2021-03-23 22:06:39 +0000 UTC
yall were right, it's the latter. Zeke intends to mass sterilize Eldians, thus euthanizing the Eldian race after a generation. euthanization is the goal, the sterilization is the method.