Full Of It #250 - The Disappearance of Josh Guimond

It seems to be quite straight forward, as you mentioned. The most curious thing, assuming it was a meet up gone terribly wrong, is whether the person he had met was in any way related to the church and its activities? On one hand the church just seems to be an easy to remember go-to place for a late night meet but on another hand you'd probably need to know it, have relations with it, for it to come up out of the million other places one could meet.

Miriam Margoyles has posed nude Vogue… that is all 😁

Smurphy

Firstly, a belated thank you for my birthday message - it was well precious and you're both too kind ♥ I know I don't always comment cos I'm a busy bitch on the go but trust and believe I'm always listening. On the topic of quote unquote "dangerous rendezvous" I feel like there's a million obvious reasons queer people used to do it all the time i.e. safeguarding their identity from hostile communities/family relations, not wanting to lose their livelihoods due to queerphobic legislation etc. but I think one that doesn't get much thought is isolation. Lots of queer people (myself included) grow up and spend a lot of their early lives where they are, unironically, "the only gay in the village" and a real, genuine lack of prospects can lead you to do some crazy shit - thinking you need to seize whatever crumbs you possibly can. I haven't personally had any experience with my sexuality because of the isolation from any semblence of a queer community but I'm far too much of a wuss to go out with some rando to the middle of nowhere and trust that something awful won't happen. I don't know much about Minnesota but if Josh's hometown was (god forbid) anything like bloody St Olaf the change of being thrust into college life from an isolated upbringing could have made him desperate to connect with a world he'd never had the chance to. I'll throw my vote towards a taskmaster video aswell but I worry it would be a bit of a mammoth undertaking in terms of filming and editing - not that I'm disparaging your talents as queens of production!

Lymp you are just an incredible orator! Not only are your dulcet tones delightful on the earholes, but the way you deliver your stories, especially the mysterious/dark ones are next level, I am hooked on every word till the very end. It seems crazy how less progressive it was only 20 years ago. It was such a taboo thing to be gay. Even in the late 2000's I remember a time before Grindr and apps when I would talk to strangers online on a chat site, sneak out of home and jump in there car 🤢 it was truly a different time back then. On a lighter note, I think a taskmaster video/s would be an incredible idea. I can see you as the Greg Davies host type holding all the power and getting Nerva, Char and whomever else to do riding things for you would be amazing to watch x

tom bird

Fab pod as always Lymp. 👌 Your theory seems exactly right. I look back now and think it was utter madness what I used to get up to as a horny gay teenager. I'd literally get into random older men's cars and go to wherever. I wonder why? Is it just raging hormones? A need to validate yourself/your sexuality? Did I think being gay was perverted so I did it to fit in somehow? I've got no idea. I'm about the same age as you so I wonder whether that dangerous exploration might be dying out? There's more openly queer teens in schools and more wholesome representation in the media.

Joe

Great pod Lymp! Lovely to go to work with your dulcet tones down my earholes. Let's talk about the fun stuff first: you did hit me right in the nostalgic feels with that Hanson intro. I also thought that they were girls for quite a while. They are still a great band (they tour here in Brazil fairly regularly). Did you see them as Russian Doll on The Masked Singer US? Now about that sad stuff. How heartbreaking the whole thing is. And I agree with you, it was most likely a hookup gone bad, and people are just too homophobic to contemplate the idea. I remember that a few antivirus software did have that kind of web clean-up function, so maybe that was what was referred to in the documentary? I'm pretty sure his flatmates deleted what they could find that might be "traumatic" to his parents without considering that he was maybe in danger of some kind.

Daniela Menezes

Brilliant pod as always! (Off topic but a friend came over at the weekend and I showed him a bunch of your vids and he was bloody CACKLING at you two trying to use that pottery wheel. I think you’ve got an instant fan there 😊). In regards to the pod, I think you’re idea is the most likely and if that is the case, how unbelievably sad that people would rather theorise that he went off and started a new life based on no evidence rather than accept he was gay or bisexual. And furthermore, maybe if people were more accepting of queer people he wouldn’t have felt like he had to go off and have a secret hookup and potentially wouldn’t have ended up in that dangerous situation or there would at least be a clearer idea of where he went or what happened because he might have felt more comfortable telling his friends.

Patricia Ward

Good evening Lymp ❣️ Sorry- I know.. it’s been a while since I was last here… But, I was needing some company whilst I redecorate my flat, so, I decided to scurry back to this familial old haunt and rejoin the patreon. And I’m so glad I did. Thanks for keeping me entertained all day as I’ve been catching up on the pod - I can’t wait for us to catch up again some more tomorrow (and beyond)! OH! And as I’ve been enjoying your pleasant company today I realised I have something funny to tell you which, for some reason- I’m not sure, I was always too shy to tell you years ago. My dads side of the family all live in/around Bournemouth, so I spent lots of time during the school holidays down south. Anyhow, for years and years as a kid, I’d be taken to the very Clarke’s shoe shop you used to work in to get school shoes. And, one time I did the maths and worked out there was a few years of overlap to when I was a kid getting school shoes and when you were working there. So, who knows for sure, but there’s a pretty realistic chance that you might have helped me get my annual pair of black mary janes as a kid. Still, if that did happen and you don’t remember that interaction, dare I say it’s for the best… Probably means I was one of the better customers lmao.

Sari

I agree with you, Lympi: a hookup gone wrong does seem the most likely explanation. Growing up as a regular suburban chick, I didn't know how dangerous it could be for gay men to find dates: the stories are both horrifying and heartbreaking. To think that in times gone by it was illegal as well as risky is truly tragic: dating apps have hopefully improved safety along with convenience. O, for a world where no one has to hide!

NotThatLinda

In regards to searching bodies of water and how complicated it is, have you ever listened to the podcast Someone Knows Something? I feel like it's right up your alley. It's presented by Canadian investigative journalist David Ridgen and each season covers a single case. The first season covers the case of a young boy who went missing near a lake in eastern Ontario and has a lot of very interesting information regarding cadaver dogs and how they work. David is so passionate about helping these families and listening to him do this work is wild sometimes. https://www.cbc.ca/radio/sks I feel like you'd also like the story of Gene and Sandy Ralston, a retired couple that are spending their retirement years using high tech radar to try and find people that have gone missing in bodies of water. They seem like such genuine and caring people. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/16/bring-up-the-bodies-gene-sandy-ralston-drowning-victims-sonar

Dean Davis

Looking forward to your upcoming content. No matter what you post I’ll always be watching🫶🏻

Beau A

I just read through the article Josh posted in the last pod about the Wembley Point woman and what a bizarre case! Someone in distress holding an abstract oil painting of figures falling and then jumping out the window is some real horror movie levels of creepy. I hope they someday identify her.

Mark Hall

I feel like he might have been experimenting with his sexuality and ended up having an casual encounter with someone at church, his room mate(s) might have known about this sexuality and cleared his search history so if his parents or anyone found out it would ease the pain, incase they where religious. Can I suggest doing a pod about the disappearance of Brian Shaffer, on March 31, 2006, Shaffer went out with friends to celebrate the beginning of spring break; later he was separated from them and they assumed he had gone home. However, a security camera near the entrance to a Columbus bar recorded him briefly talking to two women just before 2 a.m., then apparently re-entering the bar without any evidence of him leaving the area. Shaffer has not been seen or heard from since. The case did received national media attention

Dorariel

Omg I found this story super interesting! I love a good murder mystery story tbf as I’m easily scared 😂😂 but anyway i absolutely love this 🥰🥰🥰

Ooh yes, a lovely dark episode. ! A perfect creepy listen after a day of cremating in the sun. And finally ive been able to listen just as its come out, the last few weeks ive always been super busy so its taken me days to get to the pod. So excited for a new favs and shitters video, they are always great to watch.

Ben The Overlord

Yes but mine is good x

Novympia

Is the band Hanson to you what STEPS is to Nova?

Robb