Lucifer 2x05 "Weaponizer" Full Reaction
Added 2020-09-14 00:17:45 +0000 UTCThe crossover I never thought I needed
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Yes, I know what Goddess meant went she said Uriel was the smallest. But Lucifer is still older than Uriel. Amenadiel says "Young Rebel" which just means that Lucifer rebelled when he was young, not that he was younger than Uriel. But regardless, there are alot of theories as to who is younger etc. So I'm closing this debate,
KayGee
2020-09-16 20:03:01 +0000 UTCThat's not true. It is established in this episode that Uriel is a middle child and that Lucifer is younger than him. Lucifer is one of the youngest of all the angels. Not the youngest, but the youngest hasn't been introduced yet as far as Liam has seen. If you pay closer attention to Lucifer's conversation with their mother, then you will see this for yourself. She says that Uriel is one of the smallest of the angels, not the youngest. Smallest in stature, not age. And it's Amenadiel who confirms that Uriel is a middle child when he confronts his brother on the roof.
Heidi Elizabeth Marcum
2020-09-16 01:50:12 +0000 UTCThanks for another great reaction Liam. I absolutely love this episode. It is one of my favorites from the entire show. Tom Ellis does an amazing job. You can clearly see that Lucifer cares deeply about Uriel as you see him break down in Goddess arms after he killed him. He didn't want to do it, but he had to in order to keep Goddess and Chloe safe.
KayGee
2020-09-15 21:06:40 +0000 UTCRegarding Heidi saying Lucifer is the youngest. He is not. Uriel and all the other angels except Amenadiel are younger than him,
KayGee
2020-09-15 21:01:56 +0000 UTCWeaponizer- Wow!!! This episode is so, so phenomenal, and it's definitely the first of my favorite episodes throughout this second season. I absolutely love it!!! And it's mostly all to do with this phenomenal ending, when we watch Lucifer and Maze both fight Uriel, and then see a new side of Lucifer that we've never seen before. A side of him that makes me cry in the end every time I watch this episode. Thank you so much! But to back up a little... the overall case involving the Weaponizer, his wife, and their friends, is pretty solid. I really enjoy this storyline for sure. There are stronger, more entertaining cases throughout this show, but I mostly really love the cute and hilarious bromance that develops between Lucifer and Dan over their commonalty in loving the six Body Bags action movies. And I definitely love the end twist upon discovering that Kimo's co-star and friend was killed by both his wife and their their other friend who are sadly also having an affair with one another. And with that being said... I love how Chloe is able to protect Kimo from killing those who betrayed him by talking him down and appealing to the good part of him who is afraid of losing everything, just as she has become since her accident in spite of not showing it to any of those who care about her except for Lucifer in the end because he happened to be there so he could try to protect her from his brother. And like you... I also love how Lucifer trusts Chloe so completely to be able to talk Kimo down. I love their relationship. And now speaking of Lucifer's brother... I absolutely love the introduction to Lucifer's brother, Uriel... the third angel introduced into this phenomenal show. And I really like the actor chosen to play him as well, at least in his role as Uriel. Michael Imperioli. I've seen him in other roles and I never really cared much for him, but Uriel is absolutely a role he is meant to play. I love his demeanor, his wit, and all of his interactions with Lucifer, as well as with Amenadiel too. In the beginning... we see Uriel first appear as he carefully sets off a chain of events that leads to Chloe getting into the car accident we see happen at the end of the last episode, therefore revealing that the accident was indeed the consequence to Lucifer's refusal to give up their mother. And a short time later... Uriel reveals himself to Lucifer, who then confronts his older brother on the roof, and they have a conversation that ends with Uriel threatening both Chloe and their mother, as Lucifer comes to realize that Chloe's life is most definitely in danger. I love how protective Lucifer then becomes of Chloe, as he takes up the role of her protector. While she thinks he's taking protecting her way out of control, and Lucifer is even being funny in how he handles the different situations he and Chloe find themselves in, but we know that he's not messing around because he knows just how powerful and serious his brother is. Next... I really enjoy Amenadiel's and Uriel's confrontation as Amenadiel attempts to talk Uriel down like Lucifer asked of him while pretending to still be his old powerful self, since Amenadiel has yet to tell Lucifer that he's become a fallen angel at this point. Unfortunately, we see within a later scene between Amenadiel, Lucifer, and Maze at Lucifer's penthouse, that Uriel has defeated Amenadiel easily and hurt him badly because he was able to recognize that Amenadiel was powerless due to seeing what was to come in his mind, as is his own power to predict everyone's patterns. That... and because Uriel knows his older brother well enough to recognize that Amenadiel was all talk, and not a fighter like he always has been since they were in Heaven together from the beginning of time. I will say... while i do feel badly for Amenadiel under the circumstances, I'm also mad at both him and Maze for coming down so hard on Lucifer and for not understanding his need to save and protect Chloe and their mother. If Amenadiel just been honest with Lucifer about losing his powers and becoming a fallen angel, then he could have avoided getting hurt by Uriel. However, Amenadiel was too prideful to admit the truth to him. His "angelic ego" Lucifer recognizes in his older brother once again gets in the way of Amenadiel simply being honest with Lucifer. And Maze knows darn well how much Lucifer cares about Chloe, as well as their mother. She is their mother after all. So for her to get so upset with him, especially given that he didn't know the truth about Amenadiel losing his power... it's so wrong. Should Lucifer have been more understanding with Amenadiel upon learning this about him? Of course he should have. But Lucifer was terrified for Chloe and for their mother. Especially Chloe. His only desire in this moment is to find Chloe and to protect her from Uriel. So I can absolutely understand why Lucifer leaves his penthouse again after being a bit more harsh with Amenadiel than he really meant to be. A bit of background in regards to the brothers' places of their births... Amenadiel is the oldest of all the angels, while Uriel is somewhere in the middle, and Lucifer is the youngest of them. They have other brothers and sisters as well. Some who are older and some younger, but Lucifer is one of the youngest of them all. Now... one of my favorite scenes within this episode is when Lucifer discovers Amenadiel has failed in his task to get Uriel back to Heaven, then becomes angry with Amenadiel and Maze when they both claim to know what their father really wants from him just like Uriel claims to know what God wants from him. Lucifer then suddenly shouts that no one ever really knows what their father wants because God himself won't come down to tell him in person, nor will he speak with anyone else. And I can absolutely understand Lucifer's frustrations with God for staying silent. And Lucifer is absolutely right. It really is cruel of God to not let anyone know with a certainty of what he wants from them, but then I suppose that by him staying silent, it allows for his children to have the free will Lucifer is so adamant about everyone deserving, including his brothers and sisters just like we humans have. Plus... I do feel that Lucifer does believe his own words in this moment, although I'm sure there's also a part of him that doubts himself as well. He doubts himself a lot more than he allows anyone to see. I love this moment for Lucifer, because we can see that Lucifer is so conflicted about sending his mother back to Hell because he wants so badly to believe that she really has come to Earth to be there for him and Amenadiel now, in spite of her failing to be his mother in Heaven. Perhaps sending his mother back to Hell is the smart decision, but I can absolutely understand why the decision is so hard for Lucifer too. Especially in the end when Uriel reveals he has no intention of sending their mother back to Hell, but that he plans to wipe her out of existence with Azrael's blade, which he has stolen from the Angel of Death. And Lucifer is offered a very dark choice... give up his mother so that Uriel can destroy her completely, or to save Chloe. Lucifer realizes he has no real choice but to fight his brother and at first, Lucifer is doing well in their battle, until Uriel's abilities to see Lucifer's fighting patterns before Lucifer can attack him come into play, and Uriel manages to defeat Lucifer after a rough battle between brothers, rendering Lucifer nearly unconscious for a brief time while Uriel then comes face to face with Maze, who arrives to protect Lucifer and Chloe. But once again, Uriel beats her as well. And then... the most shocking moment happens, when Lucifer suddenly appears beside his brother just before Uriel can push the key on the organ that would have set up the chain of events eventually leading to Chloe's death, as he swiftly stabs and kills Uriel with Azrael's blade in order to save Chloe and his mother. This moment is devastating, because we see just how deeply affected and broken Lucifer becomes upon being forced to kill his own brother. Especially in the very end, when Lucifer returns to his penthouse to find his mother there, and he breaks down crying in his mother's arms. This moment for Lucifer is tragic and heartbreaking, yet so beautiful as well. Because in spite of being cast out of Heaven and into Hell, and being an outcast hated by most of his siblings, while despising most of them in return, we see in this moment that Lucifer still loves them and he becomes broken upon having to kill one of them. And while the world has always seen him as all evil, a monster, and as a killer, Lucifer's said that he's never killed anyone ever, which means that his own brother is his first kill. So, so heartbreaking and devastating. And you can absolutely feel Lucifer's pain and emotions from Tom Ellis in these moments as well, which is a real testament to his acting abilities that are just so incredible. I also find it interesting that Uriel makes a point to tell Lucifer that he would never use the blade on Lucifer to kill him, which is why he sheaths the blade in the holster worn on his back so they can fight hand to hand. This shows that Uriel really does love Lucifer too, in spite of despising him for his rebellion against their father and turning away from all things divine. I believe this moment shows us that Uriel also believes Lucifer would never use Azrael's blade on him either should he ever gain possession of it, which explains why Uriel fails to see Lucifer stabbing him with the blade coming. Fantastic! I absolutely love this devastating ending. I can't help but cry and I feel so badly for Lucifer, as well as their mother too because we can see that she's pretty devastated as well upon seeing her son's blood all over Lucifer's clothes, and her youngest son so broken while he cries in her arms as she tries to comfort him. This scene, and the entire episode, also shows us just how much Lucifer really has come to care for Chloe too, which I love, love, love!!!! Tom Ellis' acting is phenomenal and always has been. But I love, love, love this moment in the end between him and his mother, and just before while he's holding Uriel's body in his arms... devastated upon realizing exactly what he's done. Tom Ellis is brilliant with the comedy, and everything else too, but seeing him break down and show such emotion is absolutely sensational!! Thank you so much for this amazing reaction for a phenomenal episode, Liam!!! I really can't wait for your reaction for the next episode too, because it's another one of my absolute favorites within this season and throughout all the seasons as well. I hope it will come very soon!! Until then, my dear friend... Stay safe and healthy, and be happy! :) Thank you so, so much! Sincerely, Heidi
Heidi Elizabeth Marcum
2020-09-14 01:21:03 +0000 UTC
