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Early Access: Everyone But Me Is Wrong About The Cornetto Trilogy

hey team!

this early access vid is not as early as usual - it's Nebula Sponsored and today is my release deadline, but I had to spend yesterday making edit after edit to finally get one YouTube didn't slap with a worldwide block. this is still ad-free and does not have the sponsor read I'm shooting/incorporating today, but I apologize for only giving you a few hours' preferential treatment. you'll get the next one proper-early!

Early Access: Everyone But Me Is Wrong About The Cornetto Trilogy

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Hi, I just sent you an ask on Tumblr about your interpretation of the world's end. I don't know if it will help, or even reach you, for that matter, but I had to try.

your friendly neighborhood Patreon supporter

Damn, foiled again! 👿

Locane

this is a trick you're trying to trick me I'm not clicking that link I'm onto you

Ian Danskin

Sharing because apparently this is a thing smart progressives are doing now? https://www.dropout.tv/videos/smartypants-trailer Which I love, to be clear

Locane

Got to say a couple of things about Hot Fuzz - first, I think Nicholas does change at the end. When they're all filling out paperwork and Danny points out "official vocab guidelines state that we say staffing not manpower 'cos manpower is a bit sexist", Nicholas makes a joke which a) is a bit sexist, b) makes fun of official inclusivity guidelines, and c) *everyone ends up genuinely laughing at*. He has clearly made the decision to embark on a journey of lightening up. Is he all the way there? No, not yet, but he's got 30 years of habit to kick. He's made the first step, which is the hardest one. But, more importantly, you point out that "the purpose of drinking laws is to keep the streets safe and orderly, and if letting some people off with a warning [...] achieves that end, the rule can be bent. [...] You can use your better judgement." Which is nice, in theory. But the trouble with applying the law unequally is that it is often applied more unequally to some than to others. And it might be worth pointing out that everyone in Sandford is white, and (one or two working-class coded individuals aside) Sandford itself is clearly coded as very comfortably middle class. So while using better judgement would be great, if and when that happens it nearly always ends up happening for well-off white people... somehow. Or, for whole communities of well-off white people. Something working-class and BAME victims of the Met Police's stop-and-search powers will be aware of, as will Nicholas Angel as a former Met officer. Of course the preferred solution to this would be to let working-class and minority groups off with warnings more often, but until the rest of the police force can be convinced to go along with that, individual officers enforcing the law consistently is (IMHO) the most just solution for society as a whole.

Adam S

I'm not sure I agree with the whole "grow up/don't grow up" dichotomy, at least for the first two films. At least to my mind in those two the story was at kinda about the world meeting them halfway on the question of who has to change. Like, Nicholas kinda ends the movie in this state of "You can still be the cop doing everything by the book, but you don't need to put on the trappings of having such a stick up your ass and at least interpersonally that hypercompetence comes across as uncaring" and the world meets him with "Well, sometimes the people telling you to relax and not care about the rules *genuinely don't have your best interests at heart*." Shawn's problem wasn't so much that he made bad plans, as that he didn't really observe the world around him. He was sleepwalking through life. He ends up much more conscientiously appreciating life, even if he's doing the same rinky dink stuff he was doing before, and this may be me editorializing but I think at the end Liz appreciates that. But the world kinda meets him half way by saying "Hey, those people who were caught up in the way the modern world was all mostly died. Your dick flatmate, your icy stepdad, even your pretentious pub buddy." I think maybe what separates those from the third movie is that we find those points broadly agreeable? Like, we all kinda feel like there are people in power who want the rules bent when the rules should be fair, and we all kinda feel like there are people so embedded in some socially constructed stuff that they wouldn't see an apocalypse happening right in front of them. We don't really all want permission to make decisions so bad they ruin the world, and I don't think we all see the epitome of the human condition as being the ability to vomit blood into a gutter at 3:30 in the morning. Maybe that's why The World's End falls flat? That and King's complete constitutional inability to meet anyone halfway on anything ever in the history of forever.

Markus

the best way to attend PPT party is to throw one!

Ian Danskin

Are you near Portland? How do I get invited to a Power Point Party? I have some thoughts on frustration vs. difficulty in video games design 😂

Locane

Holy cow what a fantastic video! I've seen all 3 of these movies (and a couple of the Adam Sandler movies... 😬) but I didn't know they were called "The Cornetto Trilogy". I initially avoided the video because I thought it was about hard-drama or horror movies and I just didn't want to deal with that, emotionally, but I'm glad I spent the time. Funny, smart, and sends me to a dictionary at least once to double check a word I thought I knew which hits all the points on your videos for me 😂 Great job!

Locane

tl;dr: Americans can't grasp subtext or unfamiliar narratives

Coupcumber

Fuck yeah, brilliant work.

xanna

god thank you for this

Betsy D

I watched this when it came up on Nebula. Thank you for articulating this, I saw Shaun of the Dead and the ending made me uncomfortable since it seemed like nothing got resolved in any way, but that was because I was interpreting it like every other disaster film I've ever seen. I also felt a parallel with my own life - I never really wanted to settle down but I did because it was The Thing To Do(tm), and I was always miserable. I don't think I've had any real personal growth, maybe I've just shifted into a world where I don't have to. Also I hated the ending of Anger Management, if the goal was to make the guy more assertive, he crossed the line into asshole (but it's an Adam Sandler movie so of course he did? I dunno)

AaronRobertoMusic

excelent work. I've always had a problem with worlds end, but couldn't articulate it.

Matthew Palmer

Not going to lie, that line almost killed me...

Matthew Palmer

Funny, I haven't watched World's End and this makes me want to! But, I'm honestly glad I saw this first, I think I'd have a much different reaction seeing it unspoiled

Patrick Kennedy

Dude, i commented on this at the 80% mark and then watched the end, and fuuuuck the ending was so good. In my more problematic youth, I used to worry that I’d end up a selfish immature prick like Gary King alone in delusion. Your ending call out of the man/manchild/character was cathartic 👏👏👏

Site-42 (TheeSherm)

Well if this video isn’t a slice of fried gold, I don’t know what is. Love these movies, and your read on them is top notch. Glad you finally got to make a video on them.

Site-42 (TheeSherm)

Space Brexit is absolutely the best read on The Worlds End 👌👏

Sarah H

This is freaking great.

Jason Schneiderman

Gave it a whirl on Nebula. Phenomenal as always, Ian. Really making me want to put a few movie nights on my calendar. :P

Nick Kinsman

...huh (for the record, never watched the third movie, and now likely never will)

GregD


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