DoujinStars
chapotraphouse
chapotraphouse

patreon


Movie Mindset 02 - Drinks For All My Friends: ‘87 Rourke

Will and Hesse take a look at two films featuring actor Mickey Rourke, both released in 1987: Alan Parker’s Angel Heart and Barbet Schroeder’s Barfly. Both films show off Rourke at the height of his leading-man potential: one as a very beautiful man who is really very evil, and one as a very ugly man with a kind of heart of gold. Our hosts follow Mickey as he battles demons, some of his own creation, some very very egg-eatingly real.

Movie Mindset 02 - Drinks For All My Friends: ‘87 Rourke

Comments

It's a beatnik accent. In Barfly, Rourke is doing Beat Generation poet. Like Alan Arkin in that movie where Audrey Hepburn is blind and has heroin.

Equality State Of Mind

The best episode to listen to while getting drunk

Joseph Murphy

Hesse’s “Brooklyn guy” is my favorite ear candy.

Ken K.

I keep going back to this banger of an episode. Also they way Mickey rourke looks today makes you think he's trying to trick the devil.

atatrs251

Really enjoyed this, but I'm sure Alan parker was responsible for moving angel heart to new orleans, not the author of falling angel

Ben

I could just hear Tom Waits' "I hope I don't fall in love with you" playing in my head while Rourke is saying "Drinks for all my friends"

Elijah Crawford

Just saw Year of the Dragon...amazing...all filmednon sets too!

Maouriceltic

"Is there anyone who can smoke a cigarette better than Rourke?" Mitchum

Emily Hines

The story I heard was that Cosby threatened Bonet with blacklisting if she did Angel Heart. She told him to fuck off and he basically stalled her career.

Sarah Stinard-Kiel

It's actually pronounced "ba ruffly" and it's an adjective to describe 17th century aristocratic sheep.

The Children of Jack Acid

Hesse's line "you don't want him to get better, you just want him to go fight frank Stallone" had me laughing out loud on a subway.

Thomas Mullane

Rourke is worth seeing in Animal Factory, as Jen the Actress.

Jonathan Boud

The classic adventure game Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers is also a voodoo New Orleans neo-noir with a hot investigator guy and priestess. Dripping with N.O. atmosphere and the GOAT video game voice performances hamming it up with southern and Creole accents. (1993 original, not the remake)

J.P. McD.

Boston sucks so hard.

Chris T

The more I think about the more I’m like: “Oh angel heart was pretty neat” “Wow barflies was fucking amazing”

Taylor McFarland

I'd lend you the vhs in my shed but it's probably full of brown recluses

Jamin Kreighbaum

Justice for Tuvix!

Nicolay Hristozov

I love Will’s harridan voice

I am become reply guy

1. These two movies were great, well, at least the hour I could see of Barfly was great. The two Tony Scott movies were meh, though Deja Vu had a very interesting plot. 2. I figured out Mickey Rourke's voice in Barfly: he's doing Snagglepuss! Heavens to Murgatroyd!

Demented Avenger

Sean Connery in an orange diaper. Lots of boobs (though none of them big). The Wizard of Oz. And it only gets cooler from there.

Demented Avenger

I saw about an hour on YouTube through persistent searching

Demented Avenger

Fuck off with the Boston hate you silver spoon Manhattanite! (Love you, but knock it off!)

Peter Sullivan

I was here to say this, but you're missing a few obscure Pink Floyd film scores: the Committee by Peter Sykes from 1968 (which was released on the 1968 retrospective album) and, much more famously, Zabriskie Point by Michelangelo Antonioni in 1970. Both feature variations on "Careful with That Axe, Eugene," the greatest of the pre-"Echoes" Pink Floyd songs.

Demented Avenger

Hi, philistine here, can someone explain the fan motif in Angel Heart?

I am become reply guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYF3q1KCZnM

Oscar Morland

Loving the Movie Mindset eps. Great insights on the films and they're structured and hilarious. Looking forward to listening to others.

Tim Holland

I couldn’t find Barfly streaming or even to rent on Amazon. *sigh*

Corey Reynolds

What about Barfly but it’s weed.

Nolan

This had me cracking all morning, thank you 😊

Sela Lewis

As a fellow cineast, I am very much enjoying this series.

Gregor Cunningham

Will let hesse talk in this one

William

Theyhatedhimbecausehespokethetruth.jpeg

Smooth Shrek

You can try seeing if your local library system has it or if they can pull it from another system on interlibrary loan.

Big Library

You can try seeing if your local library system has it or if they can pull it from another system on interlibrary loan.

Big Library

Yes. I was surprised at the lack of mentioning Rumble Fish. But it’s kind of an annoying FFC movie.

Jonny Mac

Also, White Sands is sick.

Jonny Mac

Hesse absolutely killed me with “Freejack-core.”

Jonny Mac

I'm sorry you're too good for transwarp lizard babies, Dwayne The Rock Johnson's acting debut, and whatever the fuck Flotter was supposed to be

drewb

hey will wanna fuck off with the anti-boston hate?! fuck you.

Jess

I mean, they’re getting my subscriber fees…

snafujesus

We needs guns! Big guns!

Ben Walsh

Because Voyager sucked.

Alice Kreig appeared as the Borg queen in both First Contact and Voyager. how could you possibly forget Unimatrix Zero, one of the series' many memorable and engaging storylines?

drewb

Mickey Rourke's voice in Barfly is the cartoon character Snagglepuss "Heavens to mergatroid"

Drew Elliott

Guys he was in "Rumble Fish" NOT "The Outsiders"! Otherwise great episode. There is also a terrific episode on 9 1/2 weeks in "You Must Remember This" podcast. Nobody who reads this will know who Joe Queenan is but he had an awesome piece "Mickey Rourke for a Day" in "If You're Talking to me Your Career Must be in Trouble" which is a gem of a book and well worth the six bucks is going for used.

Jennifer Reft

From the very first time I saw his face on the screen in Rumblefish, Mickey was my heartthrob.

Deborah Schwartz

They kept saying the Outsiders when they meant Rumble Fish

John Williams

I've heard Will talk about Angel Heart at length on the have you seen this? Podcast and this episode was still entertaining AF. Mans might be the GOAT.

Tristan Clark

outing myself as someone who first learned about mickey rourke when i was a teen and he was in sin city. i cant be the only one. roast me. kill me. i’m gay.

dan

Did I miss it or did they not really get into their interpretations of what the fans represent in angel heart?

Robin

I understand I'm a history nerd and not a artist but I found this unlistenable but I'm Alaskan so take it with grain of salt.

William Vetter

Man, you’ve got wheels in your head!

adam

I don’t see anyone mentioning it so I want to: Angel Heart movie is an unreliable narrator story. So in a lot of scenes we see the main character do things in an order/way that tries to somewhat veil his sins. Working almost like the subconscious mind to build a more acceptable reality. A lot of these realities making it seem like there is no way he could’ve done these crimes. So, in that sex scene with Epiphany, I don’t think it’s that the sex turns evil out of nowhere; I think its just that for the first time we see his constructions of events unveiled in real time. Its like a Lolita situation, where Humbert narrates his seduction by her, but reading between the lines shows her pain from the situation that Humbert refuses to acknowledge. In the movie, right after she is invited into the hotel room, we see a focus on him locking the door. This wouldn’t have been such an important point if they didn’t make it so front and center. I think this refers to his intentions of r*ping her from the very beginning, and that her flirtations are; if not completely a construction of his consciousness, definitely an exaggeration of them. And they are unveiled midway through this scene, showing the horror of what he actually is doing

Sean

I haven't listened yet, but I don't see how they do a Rourke pod and not cover rumble fish and the wrestler.

Aaron Goad

Rumble Fish is his best role by a long shot.

Huge Logo

love WSB in DRUGSTORE COWBOY

Rohmer Simpson

Worth seeing with the cameo of William S Burroughs if nothing else.

Julie Baxter

It’s crazy that he lost his job because of th———- oh, wow he didn’t? stayed on for several years afterwards?

Rohmer Simpson

These really aren't for me and that's ok I guess.

buttface

I’ve seen it - all I remember is “drink this sonofabitch soda, sweetie” and Dylan McDermott zippo lighter shenanigans. I chatted with Michael Almereyda about it a few years ago; I……. don’t think he was very happy with it.

Rohmer Simpson

Mickey moved to Florida when he was young but he was born Irish Catholic in good old Schenectady New York

Nick Muscatiello

Interesting connection: the only two film scores that Pink Floyd ever committed themselves to we’re for Barbet Schroeder films, and Alan Parker directed the only film they ever made.

Joe

You must see the Crispin Glover "Twister," Will.

Julie Baxter

It's not Patricia clarkson

Morgan spector

no love for rumble fish?

Alexander Fuchs

My mom likes to watch and rewatch the same movie over and over again for about a week or two each time and a couple of years ago she got stuck on Angel Heart. I had forgotten about it until this

B Smith

what the hell do you '00s kids know about I COME IN PEACE, which pairs Dolph Lundgren, as a Houston police detective, with DREAM ON's Brian Benben, co-written by David Koepp? they're battling extra terrestrial drug dealers baby.

Rohmer Simpson

Anytime Bill Cosby is mentioned now I just think of Don Lemon saying to bite him on the penis.

Matt James Rich

Same, since they gave it away pretty quickly "wait a minute, I had a headwound around the same time" comments...thought it would be skippable - but this sounds like its got plenty more going for it, way more crazy...with great cinematography esp in the south.

Degrassi Knoll

Reminds me of De Niro’s final line while Pacino is gently holding his hand. “I told you I was never not going to cream my pants.”

Alexander Patterson

For those struggling to watch Barfly there’s a copy on YouTube: https://youtu.be/nYF3q1KCZnM

Seymour Butz

This guy doesn’t know ball!!!

Nolan

Series is such a delight. Thought it would feel a little hollow after the incredibly substantial HOE, but it is juicy up and down, and Will + Hesse exude such love for their film subjects that I am fully infected

Dan Hunter

It’s kind of pathetic to be salty towards an entire city because you don’t like that their sports teams are better than yours. Touch grass.

Nolan

Loved the Wondorous Physick reference. Need a MM or Chapo episode solely dedicated to Elden Ring.

Jason Chapa

Apart from his involvement with this movie, Bukowski did the english subtitles on godard's Slow Motion. The scene with the horny young couple waiting for the movie was apparently taken straight from one of his short stories & its so funny

andrew henderson

Gotta be year of the dragon for me. Mickey at his most racist

Ricardo

I got movie mindset from my uncle who would take me to see a movie every week when I was a kid. He was a huge Mickey Rourke fan and ceaselessly sung the praises of Michael Cimino’s Year of the Dragon

Broadway Joe

Love it when Hesse says “yeah” and “I know right?” and “totally”. Hope to hear more along those lines.

Rohmer Simpson

Offing a woman by putting a gun in her cooter needs to be referred to as “a Nick Mullen style murder.”

Alexander Patterson

Barbet Schroeder = Swiss aka "Sweden"

Alexlarson

Another great episode. Thanks.

Barton Dudlick

Lisa Bonet in James Cangey voice: "See here mack, don't fuck me till the blood come pouring out."

John Williams

Rourke’s voice work in Barfly? That’s what Charles Bukowski sounded like. Watch the Barbet Schroeder doc How Charles Bukowski Actually Talked.

Calvin Jarrett

This series good

kenton

Listening to this brought back a repressed memory of watching Angel Heart with my grandmother when I was about 15

Declan Kennedy

Def need a MM (movie mindset) episode on Heat (1995). I’ll die and go to heaven and cream my pants

Peter Sullivan

We love Freejack, don’t we folks?

Peter Sullivan

Yo split second rule!!! So does nemesis!!!

Gary Perry

Will pours out the knowledge, love it, but is anyone going tell him to let Hesse have a word or two?

Tony Millionaire

Split Second is an insane movie. The monster is a satanic xenomorph powered by global warming, and Rutger Hauer is trying to do every accent on the eastern seaboard at the same time.

Tim O'Connor

Another Charlotte Rampling role to check out would be The Night Porter from the same year

Zach H.

Anyone interested in Bukowski having written the script should check out his book Hollywood and the story collection The Most Beautiful Woman in Town which inspired a lot of the scenes for Faye Dunaway’s character

Zach H.

Hesse we need more Brooklyn accent

Dongo

Rourke also sort of reprises his Man on Fire role in Masked and Anonymous as a sleazy consigliore type, and the Rainmaker actually too…

Scot Forsythe

My fursona enjoying the company of some horsey bois https://www.furaffinity.net/user/vulpusredtail/

Vulpus Redtail

somehow both those movies sound like Disco Elysium

etienne

Those fucking fingernails!! 🤮🤣

Stephanie Krusell

I need you to know that my mom took me to see Angel Heart in the theater when it came out. I begged her, I was a rocker kid really into satanic/occult stuff. I was 12. I still think it’s part of what made me the crazy person I am. I’ve always felt weird for loving that movie. Thanks for loving it too and making me feel less freakish. Xoxo

Stephanie Krusell

Barfly really is so beautiful and lets me paint my drunken youth in roses

Babcult

torrenting movies is an absolute good.

Rohmer Simpson

Where can I watch barfly ? Can’t find it on any app or even Amazon

LG

Johnny Handsome is 3 bags of popcorn out of 4 Walter Hill. Pauline Kael shouted out Morgan Freeman and Forest Whitaker - she got in on the ground floor w/ those two guys.

Rohmer Simpson

What about an episode on the movie Auto Focus? Totally bonkers shit

Jude Brown

Speaking of Charlotte Rampling, when are you going to review Zardoz (1974)?

Nicolay Hristozov

angel heart was one of the strangest movies i've ever seen. the part where it just abruptly shifts to the deep south was genuinely jarring.

calvin kilby

All right, Movie Mindset is really starting to hit its stride. Great natural back-and-forth, can’t wait to hear more

Nick Muscatiello

Not the Outsiders but Rumble Fish according to wiki?

George Lochinski

grats on your heart kill will. you should check out griftlands on steam now

Jim Storrie

Will and Hesse discuss Shoah. And it is somehow longer than the film!

John Williams

Haven’t listened to the episode so this may be redundant, but it’s extremely funny that De Niro’s whole getup is goofing on one Martin Scorsese.

Rohmer Simpson

How terrible is wisdom when it brings no profit to the wise vis-a-vis listening to podcasts

I am become reply guy

Maybe movie mindset isn't so lame after all. These movies both sound awesome. I was always curious about Angel Heart but never thought to actually watch it.

MEAT CLOWN

nice!

Ted Wood

Sloppe Deluxe: 50% extra

etienne

It is extremely funny that Robert Rodriguez had Mickey Rourke play “the ugliest and most disfigured guy alive” in 2005’s Sin City

Matt Boi

Damn, I might have to watch angel heart even after hearing the ending. Sounds great

jjmm

Barf.ly

Rohmer Simpson

I'm very fond of Midnight in Paris but imo Cafe Society is pretty great and looks fantastic.

Rohmer Simpson

looks like torrenting or sketchy-looking import DVDs on Amazon are the only options

Rohmer Simpson

I must add, given the vibe praise of the movie, that a lot of what Bukowski draws upon was from his time in Philadelphia, where he was arrested. (He spent time in the same prison HH Holmes was held/executed in.) The bar was in Fairmount. go '6ers.

carl

This is my first time hearing "Barfly" pronounced. Devastated to find out it isn't an adverb about puking.

Tommy

Where can you stream Barfly? I would gladly pay for it. Can't find it anywhere

TallSquirrel

that's good because they only go up from here

Chapo Trap House

Split Second is top tier schlock. Love that flick! Also fun to imagine a different version of the egg scene where Harry accepts the egg when offered and unwittingly wins his soul back

Ozzie

Have you guys seen the original Hong Kong version of Departed?? It is an excellent HK cinema cop thriller

Canadian Guy

I haven’t seen Angel Heart but the way you describe it reminds me of Jacob’s Ladder

Adam Foster

Loving the length of the episodes!

Drew McGill

goku.to

Lewis

re: departed - have you seen infernal affairs? it’s the arguably better hong kong film that the departed is modeled after

Owen

where did you guys find Barfly? It’s not on any streaming service I can find and the Blu-rays are not compatible with “most players sold in North America” and the DVD for sale in amazon is in Spanish only(based on my many minutes of research)

Ted Wood

Love da movies :)

Nicole Veneto

matchpoint--best woody film of the later stuff. I only started watching Allen after the allegations obv

carl

LA sucks no matter what time of day it is

NYCM&AHole

DeNero as ‘you know who’ is my all time favorite portrayal of our old buddy. Great film, still chilling / one of Rourke’s best performances.

Eric K

Angel Heart is an all timer

Jon Spiegler

I tell you what, I wore out the VHS tape in angel heart in that one spot if you know what I mean. But watching that movie as an adult was trippy.

Munir hakim

I watched Angel Heart right before I did canvassing work in western North Carolina, and it made the whole thing feel a lot eerier than it needed to be.

nota bot

I was 16 in 1987, never considered Rourke handsome. First saw him in one of the S.E. Hinton films, probably opposite Matt Dillon, so the comparison . I was bugged by his affectation, trying to be James Dean or Marlon Brando in my young cynical mind. I like him more now. We loved Freejack, though, that was a big deal among my friends when it came out.

Erin Kristina

Someone is up early

Michelle S


More Creators