Movie Mindset 02 - Drinks For All My Friends: ‘87 Rourke
Added 2023-05-03 11:00:04 +0000 UTC
Will and Hesse take a look at two films featuring actor Mickey Rourke, both released in 1987: Alan Parker’s Angel Heart and Barbet Schroeder’s Barfly. Both films show off Rourke at the height of his leading-man potential: one as a very beautiful man who is really very evil, and one as a very ugly man with a kind of heart of gold. Our hosts follow Mickey as he battles demons, some of his own creation, some very very egg-eatingly real.
It's a beatnik accent. In Barfly, Rourke is doing Beat Generation poet. Like Alan Arkin in that movie where Audrey Hepburn is blind and has heroin.
Equality State Of Mind
2025-01-22 17:59:12 +0000 UTC
The best episode to listen to while getting drunk
Joseph Murphy
2024-04-13 00:15:29 +0000 UTC
Hesse’s “Brooklyn guy” is my favorite ear candy.
Ken K.
2023-11-26 20:02:01 +0000 UTC
I keep going back to this banger of an episode.
Also they way Mickey rourke looks today makes you think he's trying to trick the devil.
atatrs251
2023-10-12 18:37:07 +0000 UTC
Really enjoyed this, but I'm sure Alan parker was responsible for moving angel heart to new orleans, not the author of falling angel
Ben
2023-07-07 15:02:17 +0000 UTC
I could just hear Tom Waits' "I hope I don't fall in love with you" playing in my head while Rourke is saying "Drinks for all my friends"
Elijah Crawford
2023-07-05 20:08:17 +0000 UTC
Just saw Year of the Dragon...amazing...all filmednon sets too!
Maouriceltic
2023-06-15 17:16:25 +0000 UTC
"Is there anyone who can smoke a cigarette better than Rourke?" Mitchum
Emily Hines
2023-05-25 09:10:36 +0000 UTC
The story I heard was that Cosby threatened Bonet with blacklisting if she did Angel Heart. She told him to fuck off and he basically stalled her career.
Sarah Stinard-Kiel
2023-05-17 23:57:33 +0000 UTC
It's actually pronounced "ba ruffly" and it's an adjective to describe 17th century aristocratic sheep.
The Children of Jack Acid
2023-05-16 01:50:22 +0000 UTC
Hesse's line "you don't want him to get better, you just want him to go fight frank Stallone" had me laughing out loud on a subway.
Thomas Mullane
2023-05-15 20:16:57 +0000 UTC
Rourke is worth seeing in Animal Factory, as Jen the Actress.
Jonathan Boud
2023-05-12 14:48:15 +0000 UTC
The classic adventure game Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers is also a voodoo New Orleans neo-noir with a hot investigator guy and priestess. Dripping with N.O. atmosphere and the GOAT video game voice performances hamming it up with southern and Creole accents. (1993 original, not the remake)
J.P. McD.
2023-05-10 22:42:20 +0000 UTC
Boston sucks so hard.
Chris T
2023-05-10 13:09:04 +0000 UTC
The more I think about the more I’m like:
“Oh angel heart was pretty neat”
“Wow barflies was fucking amazing”
Taylor McFarland
2023-05-10 07:26:30 +0000 UTC
I'd lend you the vhs in my shed but it's probably full of brown recluses
Jamin Kreighbaum
2023-05-09 10:12:48 +0000 UTC
Justice for Tuvix!
Nicolay Hristozov
2023-05-09 01:47:12 +0000 UTC
I love Will’s harridan voice
I am become reply guy
2023-05-09 01:46:23 +0000 UTC
1. These two movies were great, well, at least the hour I could see of Barfly was great. The two Tony Scott movies were meh, though Deja Vu had a very interesting plot.
2. I figured out Mickey Rourke's voice in Barfly: he's doing Snagglepuss! Heavens to Murgatroyd!
Demented Avenger
2023-05-09 01:46:09 +0000 UTC
Sean Connery in an orange diaper. Lots of boobs (though none of them big). The Wizard of Oz. And it only gets cooler from there.
Demented Avenger
2023-05-09 01:42:48 +0000 UTC
I saw about an hour on YouTube through persistent searching
Demented Avenger
2023-05-09 01:41:05 +0000 UTC
Fuck off with the Boston hate you silver spoon Manhattanite! (Love you, but knock it off!)
Peter Sullivan
2023-05-08 21:10:18 +0000 UTC
I was here to say this, but you're missing a few obscure Pink Floyd film scores: the Committee by Peter Sykes from 1968 (which was released on the 1968 retrospective album) and, much more famously, Zabriskie Point by Michelangelo Antonioni in 1970. Both feature variations on "Careful with That Axe, Eugene," the greatest of the pre-"Echoes" Pink Floyd songs.
Demented Avenger
2023-05-08 13:42:13 +0000 UTC
Hi, philistine here, can someone explain the fan motif in Angel Heart?
I am become reply guy
2023-05-08 03:29:12 +0000 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYF3q1KCZnM
Oscar Morland
2023-05-07 18:23:14 +0000 UTC
Loving the Movie Mindset eps. Great insights on the films and they're structured and hilarious. Looking forward to listening to others.
Tim Holland
2023-05-07 12:14:49 +0000 UTC
I couldn’t find Barfly streaming or even to rent on Amazon. *sigh*
Corey Reynolds
2023-05-07 03:55:17 +0000 UTC
What about Barfly but it’s weed.
Nolan
2023-05-07 01:25:48 +0000 UTC
This had me cracking all morning, thank you 😊
Sela Lewis
2023-05-06 16:09:13 +0000 UTC
As a fellow cineast, I am very much enjoying this series.
Gregor Cunningham
2023-05-06 15:45:21 +0000 UTC
Will let hesse talk in this one
William
2023-05-06 14:44:28 +0000 UTC
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Smooth Shrek
2023-05-06 05:54:04 +0000 UTC
You can try seeing if your local library system has it or if they can pull it from another system on interlibrary loan.
Big Library
2023-05-06 04:25:53 +0000 UTC
You can try seeing if your local library system has it or if they can pull it from another system on interlibrary loan.
Big Library
2023-05-06 04:25:24 +0000 UTC
Yes. I was surprised at the lack of mentioning Rumble Fish. But it’s kind of an annoying FFC movie.
Jonny Mac
2023-05-06 01:58:32 +0000 UTC
Also, White Sands is sick.
Jonny Mac
2023-05-06 01:21:43 +0000 UTC
Hesse absolutely killed me with “Freejack-core.”
Jonny Mac
2023-05-06 01:20:57 +0000 UTC
I'm sorry you're too good for transwarp lizard babies, Dwayne The Rock Johnson's acting debut, and whatever the fuck Flotter was supposed to be
drewb
2023-05-05 23:50:22 +0000 UTC
hey will wanna fuck off with the anti-boston hate?! fuck you.
Jess
2023-05-05 23:21:59 +0000 UTC
I mean, they’re getting my subscriber fees…
snafujesus
2023-05-05 21:38:32 +0000 UTC
We needs guns! Big guns!
Ben Walsh
2023-05-05 21:27:27 +0000 UTC
Because Voyager sucked.
2023-05-05 20:45:27 +0000 UTC
Alice Kreig appeared as the Borg queen in both First Contact and Voyager. how could you possibly forget Unimatrix Zero, one of the series' many memorable and engaging storylines?
drewb
2023-05-05 16:37:29 +0000 UTC
Mickey Rourke's voice in Barfly is the cartoon character Snagglepuss "Heavens to mergatroid"
Drew Elliott
2023-05-05 14:36:23 +0000 UTC
Guys he was in "Rumble Fish" NOT "The Outsiders"! Otherwise great episode. There is also a terrific episode on 9 1/2 weeks in "You Must Remember This" podcast. Nobody who reads this will know who Joe Queenan is but he had an awesome piece "Mickey Rourke for a Day" in "If You're Talking to me Your Career Must be in Trouble" which is a gem of a book and well worth the six bucks is going for used.
Jennifer Reft
2023-05-05 13:48:29 +0000 UTC
From the very first time I saw his face on the screen in Rumblefish, Mickey was my heartthrob.
Deborah Schwartz
2023-05-05 11:40:32 +0000 UTC
They kept saying the Outsiders when they meant Rumble Fish
John Williams
2023-05-05 11:00:29 +0000 UTC
I've heard Will talk about Angel Heart at length on the have you seen this? Podcast and this episode was still entertaining AF. Mans might be the GOAT.
Tristan Clark
2023-05-05 09:00:33 +0000 UTC
outing myself as someone who first learned about mickey rourke when i was a teen and he was in sin city. i cant be the only one. roast me. kill me. i’m gay.
dan
2023-05-05 07:23:07 +0000 UTC
Did I miss it or did they not really get into their interpretations of what the fans represent in angel heart?
Robin
2023-05-05 07:06:01 +0000 UTC
I understand I'm a history nerd and not a artist but I found this unlistenable but I'm Alaskan so take it with grain of salt.
William Vetter
2023-05-05 04:42:18 +0000 UTC
Man, you’ve got wheels in your head!
adam
2023-05-05 04:28:03 +0000 UTC
I don’t see anyone mentioning it so I want to: Angel Heart movie is an unreliable narrator story. So in a lot of scenes we see the main character do things in an order/way that tries to somewhat veil his sins. Working almost like the subconscious mind to build a more acceptable reality. A lot of these realities making it seem like there is no way he could’ve done these crimes. So, in that sex scene with Epiphany, I don’t think it’s that the sex turns evil out of nowhere; I think its just that for the first time we see his constructions of events unveiled in real time. Its like a Lolita situation, where Humbert narrates his seduction by her, but reading between the lines shows her pain from the situation that Humbert refuses to acknowledge. In the movie, right after she is invited into the hotel room, we see a focus on him locking the door. This wouldn’t have been such an important point if they didn’t make it so front and center. I think this refers to his intentions of r*ping her from the very beginning, and that her flirtations are; if not completely a construction of his consciousness, definitely an exaggeration of them. And they are unveiled midway through this scene, showing the horror of what he actually is doing
Sean
2023-05-05 02:37:28 +0000 UTC
I haven't listened yet, but I don't see how they do a Rourke pod and not cover rumble fish and the wrestler.
Aaron Goad
2023-05-05 01:43:10 +0000 UTC
Rumble Fish is his best role by a long shot.
Huge Logo
2023-05-04 23:34:47 +0000 UTC
love WSB in DRUGSTORE COWBOY
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-04 23:32:36 +0000 UTC
Worth seeing with the cameo of William S Burroughs if nothing else.
Julie Baxter
2023-05-04 22:58:49 +0000 UTC
It’s crazy that he lost his job because of th———- oh, wow he didn’t? stayed on for several years afterwards?
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-04 22:46:42 +0000 UTC
These really aren't for me and that's ok I guess.
buttface
2023-05-04 22:33:45 +0000 UTC
I’ve seen it - all I remember is “drink this sonofabitch soda, sweetie” and Dylan McDermott zippo lighter shenanigans. I chatted with Michael Almereyda about it a few years ago; I……. don’t think he was very happy with it.
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-04 21:33:54 +0000 UTC
Mickey moved to Florida when he was young but he was born Irish Catholic in good old Schenectady New York
Nick Muscatiello
2023-05-04 21:28:04 +0000 UTC
Interesting connection: the only two film scores that Pink Floyd ever committed themselves to we’re for Barbet Schroeder films, and Alan Parker directed the only film they ever made.
Joe
2023-05-04 21:05:35 +0000 UTC
You must see the Crispin Glover "Twister," Will.
Julie Baxter
2023-05-04 20:57:44 +0000 UTC
It's not Patricia clarkson
Morgan spector
2023-05-04 20:46:15 +0000 UTC
no love for rumble fish?
Alexander Fuchs
2023-05-04 20:35:57 +0000 UTC
My mom likes to watch and rewatch the same movie over and over again for about a week or two each time and a couple of years ago she got stuck on Angel Heart. I had forgotten about it until this
B Smith
2023-05-04 20:34:37 +0000 UTC
what the hell do you '00s kids know about I COME IN PEACE, which pairs Dolph Lundgren, as a Houston police detective, with DREAM ON's Brian Benben, co-written by David Koepp? they're battling extra terrestrial drug dealers baby.
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-04 18:28:47 +0000 UTC
Anytime Bill Cosby is mentioned now I just think of Don Lemon saying to bite him on the penis.
Matt James Rich
2023-05-04 16:57:45 +0000 UTC
Same, since they gave it away pretty quickly "wait a minute, I had a headwound around the same time" comments...thought it would be skippable - but this sounds like its got plenty more going for it, way more crazy...with great cinematography esp in the south.
Degrassi Knoll
2023-05-04 16:33:20 +0000 UTC
Reminds me of De Niro’s final line while Pacino is gently holding his hand. “I told you I was never not going to cream my pants.”
Alexander Patterson
2023-05-04 16:27:55 +0000 UTC
For those struggling to watch Barfly there’s a copy on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/nYF3q1KCZnM
Seymour Butz
2023-05-04 16:23:38 +0000 UTC
This guy doesn’t know ball!!!
Nolan
2023-05-04 14:46:06 +0000 UTC
Series is such a delight. Thought it would feel a little hollow after the incredibly substantial HOE, but it is juicy up and down, and Will + Hesse exude such love for their film subjects that I am fully infected
Dan Hunter
2023-05-04 14:38:11 +0000 UTC
It’s kind of pathetic to be salty towards an entire city because you don’t like that their sports teams are better than yours. Touch grass.
Nolan
2023-05-04 14:37:29 +0000 UTC
Loved the Wondorous Physick reference. Need a MM or Chapo episode solely dedicated to Elden Ring.
Jason Chapa
2023-05-04 14:07:22 +0000 UTC
Apart from his involvement with this movie, Bukowski did the english subtitles on godard's Slow Motion. The scene with the horny young couple waiting for the movie was apparently taken straight from one of his short stories & its so funny
andrew henderson
2023-05-04 14:00:01 +0000 UTC
Gotta be year of the dragon for me. Mickey at his most racist
Ricardo
2023-05-04 13:56:42 +0000 UTC
I got movie mindset from my uncle who would take me to see a movie every week when I was a kid. He was a huge Mickey Rourke fan and ceaselessly sung the praises of Michael Cimino’s Year of the Dragon
Broadway Joe
2023-05-04 13:45:13 +0000 UTC
Love it when Hesse says “yeah” and “I know right?” and “totally”. Hope to hear more along those lines.
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-04 12:47:51 +0000 UTC
Offing a woman by putting a gun in her cooter needs to be referred to as “a Nick Mullen style murder.”
Alexander Patterson
2023-05-04 12:45:19 +0000 UTC
Barbet Schroeder = Swiss aka "Sweden"
Alexlarson
2023-05-04 12:41:01 +0000 UTC
Another great episode. Thanks.
Barton Dudlick
2023-05-04 11:27:11 +0000 UTC
Lisa Bonet in James Cangey voice: "See here mack, don't fuck me till the blood come pouring out."
John Williams
2023-05-04 07:53:23 +0000 UTC
Rourke’s voice work in Barfly? That’s what Charles Bukowski sounded like. Watch the Barbet Schroeder doc How Charles Bukowski Actually Talked.
Calvin Jarrett
2023-05-04 06:16:59 +0000 UTC
This series good
kenton
2023-05-04 04:34:03 +0000 UTC
Listening to this brought back a repressed memory of watching Angel Heart with my grandmother when I was about 15
Declan Kennedy
2023-05-04 04:02:04 +0000 UTC
Def need a MM (movie mindset) episode on Heat (1995). I’ll die and go to heaven and cream my pants
Peter Sullivan
2023-05-04 03:44:17 +0000 UTC
We love Freejack, don’t we folks?
Peter Sullivan
2023-05-04 03:40:17 +0000 UTC
Yo split second rule!!! So does nemesis!!!
Gary Perry
2023-05-04 03:18:03 +0000 UTC
Will pours out the knowledge, love it, but is anyone going tell him to let Hesse have a word or two?
Tony Millionaire
2023-05-04 02:54:53 +0000 UTC
Split Second is an insane movie. The monster is a satanic xenomorph powered by global warming, and Rutger Hauer is trying to do every accent on the eastern seaboard at the same time.
Tim O'Connor
2023-05-04 02:33:51 +0000 UTC
Another Charlotte Rampling role to check out would be The Night Porter from the same year
Zach H.
2023-05-04 02:12:27 +0000 UTC
Anyone interested in Bukowski having written the script should check out his book Hollywood and the story collection The Most Beautiful Woman in Town which inspired a lot of the scenes for Faye Dunaway’s character
Zach H.
2023-05-04 02:07:37 +0000 UTC
Hesse we need more Brooklyn accent
Dongo
2023-05-04 01:59:46 +0000 UTC
Rourke also sort of reprises his Man on Fire role in Masked and Anonymous as a sleazy consigliore type, and the Rainmaker actually too…
Scot Forsythe
2023-05-04 01:32:19 +0000 UTC
My fursona enjoying the company of some horsey bois https://www.furaffinity.net/user/vulpusredtail/
Vulpus Redtail
2023-05-04 01:20:41 +0000 UTC
somehow both those movies sound like Disco Elysium
etienne
2023-05-04 01:15:47 +0000 UTC
Those fucking fingernails!! 🤮🤣
Stephanie Krusell
2023-05-04 00:58:22 +0000 UTC
I need you to know that my mom took me to see Angel Heart in the theater when it came out. I begged her, I was a rocker kid really into satanic/occult stuff. I was 12. I still think it’s part of what made me the crazy person I am. I’ve always felt weird for loving that movie. Thanks for loving it too and making me feel less freakish. Xoxo
Stephanie Krusell
2023-05-04 00:55:27 +0000 UTC
Barfly really is so beautiful and lets me paint my drunken youth in roses
Babcult
2023-05-04 00:34:05 +0000 UTC
torrenting movies is an absolute good.
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-03 22:16:51 +0000 UTC
Where can I watch barfly ? Can’t find it on any app or even Amazon
LG
2023-05-03 22:10:13 +0000 UTC
Johnny Handsome is 3 bags of popcorn out of 4 Walter Hill. Pauline Kael shouted out Morgan Freeman and Forest Whitaker - she got in on the ground floor w/ those two guys.
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-03 22:07:10 +0000 UTC
What about an episode on the movie Auto Focus? Totally bonkers shit
Jude Brown
2023-05-03 21:44:47 +0000 UTC
Speaking of Charlotte Rampling, when are you going to review Zardoz (1974)?
Nicolay Hristozov
2023-05-03 21:43:52 +0000 UTC
angel heart was one of the strangest movies i've ever seen. the part where it just abruptly shifts to the deep south was genuinely jarring.
calvin kilby
2023-05-03 21:20:47 +0000 UTC
All right, Movie Mindset is really starting to hit its stride. Great natural back-and-forth, can’t wait to hear more
Nick Muscatiello
2023-05-03 20:45:57 +0000 UTC
Not the Outsiders but Rumble Fish according to wiki?
George Lochinski
2023-05-03 20:45:35 +0000 UTC
grats on your heart kill will. you should check out griftlands on steam now
Jim Storrie
2023-05-03 20:36:44 +0000 UTC
Will and Hesse discuss Shoah. And it is somehow longer than the film!
John Williams
2023-05-03 19:57:23 +0000 UTC
Haven’t listened to the episode so this may be redundant, but it’s extremely funny that De Niro’s whole getup is goofing on one Martin Scorsese.
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-03 18:58:40 +0000 UTC
How terrible is wisdom when it brings no profit to the wise vis-a-vis listening to podcasts
I am become reply guy
2023-05-03 18:54:50 +0000 UTC
Maybe movie mindset isn't so lame after all. These movies both sound awesome. I was always curious about Angel Heart but never thought to actually watch it.
MEAT CLOWN
2023-05-03 18:49:49 +0000 UTC
nice!
Ted Wood
2023-05-03 17:40:50 +0000 UTC
Sloppe Deluxe: 50% extra
etienne
2023-05-03 17:23:58 +0000 UTC
It is extremely funny that Robert Rodriguez had Mickey Rourke play “the ugliest and most disfigured guy alive” in 2005’s Sin City
Matt Boi
2023-05-03 17:18:36 +0000 UTC
Damn, I might have to watch angel heart even after hearing the ending. Sounds great
jjmm
2023-05-03 17:08:05 +0000 UTC
Barf.ly
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-03 16:24:20 +0000 UTC
I'm very fond of Midnight in Paris but imo Cafe Society is pretty great and looks fantastic.
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-03 16:23:40 +0000 UTC
looks like torrenting or sketchy-looking import DVDs on Amazon are the only options
Rohmer Simpson
2023-05-03 16:18:12 +0000 UTC
I must add, given the vibe praise of the movie, that a lot of what Bukowski draws upon was from his time in Philadelphia, where he was arrested. (He spent time in the same prison HH Holmes was held/executed in.) The bar was in Fairmount. go '6ers.
carl
2023-05-03 16:13:49 +0000 UTC
This is my first time hearing "Barfly" pronounced. Devastated to find out it isn't an adverb about puking.
Tommy
2023-05-03 16:06:59 +0000 UTC
Where can you stream Barfly? I would gladly pay for it. Can't find it anywhere
TallSquirrel
2023-05-03 15:52:44 +0000 UTC
that's good because they only go up from here
Chapo Trap House
2023-05-03 15:50:10 +0000 UTC
Split Second is top tier schlock. Love that flick! Also fun to imagine a different version of the egg scene where Harry accepts the egg when offered and unwittingly wins his soul back
Ozzie
2023-05-03 15:47:50 +0000 UTC
Have you guys seen the original Hong Kong version of Departed?? It is an excellent HK cinema cop thriller
Canadian Guy
2023-05-03 15:37:46 +0000 UTC
I haven’t seen Angel Heart but the way you describe it reminds me of Jacob’s Ladder
Adam Foster
2023-05-03 14:42:52 +0000 UTC
Loving the length of the episodes!
Drew McGill
2023-05-03 14:35:41 +0000 UTC
goku.to
Lewis
2023-05-03 14:19:33 +0000 UTC
re: departed - have you seen infernal affairs? it’s the arguably better hong kong film that the departed is modeled after
Owen
2023-05-03 13:47:49 +0000 UTC
where did you guys find Barfly? It’s not on any streaming service I can find and the Blu-rays are not compatible with “most players sold in North America” and the DVD for sale in amazon is in Spanish only(based on my many minutes of research)
Ted Wood
2023-05-03 13:45:25 +0000 UTC
Love da movies :)
Nicole Veneto
2023-05-03 13:41:00 +0000 UTC
matchpoint--best woody film of the later stuff. I only started watching Allen after the allegations obv
carl
2023-05-03 13:40:33 +0000 UTC
LA sucks no matter what time of day it is
NYCM&AHole
2023-05-03 13:31:51 +0000 UTC
DeNero as ‘you know who’ is my all time favorite portrayal of our old buddy. Great film, still chilling / one of Rourke’s best performances.
Eric K
2023-05-03 13:13:44 +0000 UTC
Angel Heart is an all timer
Jon Spiegler
2023-05-03 12:41:17 +0000 UTC
I tell you what, I wore out the VHS tape in angel heart in that one spot if you know what I mean. But watching that movie as an adult was trippy.
Munir hakim
2023-05-03 12:38:33 +0000 UTC
I watched Angel Heart right before I did canvassing work in western North Carolina, and it made the whole thing feel a lot eerier than it needed to be.
nota bot
2023-05-03 12:16:43 +0000 UTC
I was 16 in 1987, never considered Rourke handsome. First saw him in one of the S.E. Hinton films, probably opposite Matt Dillon, so the comparison . I was bugged by his affectation, trying to be James Dean or Marlon Brando in my young cynical mind. I like him more now. We loved Freejack, though, that was a big deal among my friends when it came out.
Erin Kristina
2023-05-03 12:14:15 +0000 UTC
Someone is up early
Michelle S
2023-05-03 11:17:56 +0000 UTC