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Seeking a Fren: Episode 7 - The Old Man's Back Again

On a special postscript for Seeking a Fren for the End of the World, Felix, Josh, and Spencer discuss what the 2024 election signifies for the future of Con Inc., including the tech right's money machine, splits in the Daily Wire world post 10/7, and Terry Schilling's "Kamala is for they/them" ad.

For a full list of sources, check our works cited doc here: www.chapotraphouse.com/seeking

Seeking a Fren: Episode 7 - The Old Man's Back Again
Seeking a Fren: Episode 7 - The Old Man's Back Again Seeking a Fren: Episode 7 - The Old Man's Back Again

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another big L for us Crusader King II fans

Tommy U

I think they used the term vibes based politics which is a good description . People can vote and still be tuned out to the actual platform being presented. There were people voting for Trump that just wanted 'change' and didn't care at all what that change actually entailed.

Aprice

Still mindlessly repeating the mantra that everyone is tuning out and nobody cares even as Trump got his highest vote total yet in the second -highest turnout election in history. Why do you keep insisting on this? If Democrats had gotten a better candidate and won, it likely would have meant the highest turnout election ever

Raphael Wakefield

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Besand

that part in the intro where the guy goes TRANGENDERISM MUST BE ELIMINATED AT ALL COST is always such a terrifying and jarring vibe shift, I always kinda have to zone out for a few seconds after that rotating guillotines in my mind

etienne

It says it in the show notes for the first episode. The very first sentence.

Ralley Taura

Watched the Stargate thing recently and I think the right is insanely vulnerable on tech/ai. They are trying to outsource your job to a server farm.

lewis kirvan

fwiw Wendell Berry and JD Vance are not in the same universe

Shannon Hoffman

What boggles my mind more is how eager people are to ride out to defend their Podcast Heroes from people criticizing a series that just wasn't very good. I don't think everything CPT puts out has to be tailored to my interests. I've never been a huge fan of Hell of Presidents for instance. But I've never commented negatively on it, because I'm still sympathetic to its general thrust. But this series actually was crap. Poorly conceived, bad production, unclear argument, not very funny or insightful, and wonky in a way that seems at odds with what some of the stuff that the show used to be about (making fun of pollsters). The whole purpose of what CPT should be has been up in the air since Bernie was crushed, and things have become even more rudderless since Matt got sick. I left my first ever comments on this series just because I really don't want CPT to do more of this shit. Hopefully the somewhat negative reception to this series, along with Matt's return, means that there will be less "...but actually, this strategy wasn't borne out in state level polling šŸ¤“" content going forward.

John A

ā€œA Little Bit of Everything and Ultimately Nothingā€ is the DailyWire original counterpart to ā€œEverything Everywhere All at Onceā€

Robert Karnick

I'm subbed you fucking idiot simp lol

buttface

What? This is all wrong.

buttface

You cannot gaslight me into believing this was good content

buttface

and you’re a fag

Tyler

I have subscribed to this show for years and the only reason I still do is to support Matt, I notice you couldn’t refute anything I said, probably one of these losers extended family huh lol

Flynn

wonky blowhard lmao. definitely not familiar with spencer's work

RubbishBinMan

I play a LOT of PoE, and the thing that is so amazing about Elon pretending he plays PoE 2 is that anyone who has played more than ten minutes of PoE 2's endgame will instantly know he has zero idea what he's talking about. If he said he'd beaten LeBron in a game of 21, that would be as believable. But also, PoE is the least cool game in the entire world. It's not cool to ANYONE who doesn't already play. So who is Elon lying for?

Ll

Make it a book I'll buy it

Ballz Aldrin

This series was good.

Des Mosome

they don't even pay for it! 99% of the negative comments are coming from people who don't sub.

Christopher Price

why do you care? you don't follow the sub.

Christopher Price

absolutely demented

Christopher Price

lol, no. absolutely no one in the US watched the movie. it made all of its money in Europe and Asia.

Christopher Price

no, Jimmy, they make very clear that with Biden off the ballot, then "anti-woke" did absolutely terrible. but with Biden (via Kamala) on the ticket anti-woke did better, but because everyone hates Biden and his shit. Also, in 2022 Ukraine was doing better and it was popular. but in 2024 and billions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine and Israel, obviously people are going to change their minds.

Christopher Price

oh hey, Matt's right. you are a douchebag

Christopher Price

yet another negative comment from someone who doesn't sub.

Christopher Price

you don't sub and you're commenting on a locked pod. give us your mom's number so she can come rescue her poor lost child.

Christopher Price

I wrote a similar comment and deleted. Who do these people think they are that all of the 1000 episodes Chapo has done are supposed to appeal to them specifically?

J.P. McD.

"Tracing the weird perversions of the religious right in detail from mid 70s to death of Roger Ailes. God that would’ve been good." This is a perfect note.

Matthew Krueger

Felix wrote and narrated Fighting in the Age of Loneliness and it was great, and so I don't think that was the issue here, besides which I don't need two jokes a page like it was a tv sitcom... I think this thing was giant and unwieldy from the start - it just covers so much time that wrestling all of that information into a seven or eight hour script and then trying to put some kind of bow on it, was a tall fucking order.

Matthew Krueger

*matthew takes the collective chapo cock into his throat* ā€œi actually love this stupid outdated lib shit, no one better criticize itā€

Tyler

It boggles the mind that folks feel like everything done under the chapo banner needs to appeal to them directly. It's alright if you want to skip some series or eps, you know. Or, if you do have specific criticisms you could level those in something like a constructive way rather than being obnoxiously dismissive of the entire thing. Do I think it relied too heavily or was, at times, a bit unclear about specific conclusions drawn from polling data at different points in the history? Yes, I do. Do I think this series started with a premise they were, overall, perhaps a bit too precious about. Possibly. Did I also enjoy the entire series overall? Absolutely. But more importantly, I can see this as a first attempt at a thing they hadn't necessarily done before at a scale like this, and I'd be extremely happy to see them do another one: because the next one will likely be better and more assured. I'd love to see them do the one Felix teased in episode six. tldr: don't be a dick

Matthew Krueger

The nepotism is gross, these two suck shit, esp the shitlib Josh Shapiro lover

Flynn

I'll drink to that!

Matthew Krueger

*Tyler comes into the Chapo comments* "Hey everybody, I'm a complete douchebag who wants to let you all know that five years ago I stopped thinking that what you were doing was worthwhile but for some reason kept listening anyways and just decided it's time to remind you that I don't like what you do." Glad we won't see you next month dude.

Matthew Krueger

Wish I’d known who the ghost writers were ahead of time…

Flynn

In 7th grade we had an assignment to do blackout poetry with Mein Kampf. We were supposed to turn Hitlers words into something positive lol.

Jared Walker

lol have you been to a drag story time? They’re reading children’s books not doing ā€œstereotypes of gay menā€ or ā€œflirtatious humourā€. It would be more accurate to say that it’s one of many ways gay culture is sanitised for mainstream consumption.

Pat

i was giving them $5 a month while you were still watching cocomelon

Tyler

Chopper Dave, we have uh oh, over

Schwartz666

Pretty close, you say??? 🤣🤣🤣

Schwartz666

$5 is nothing to you, but you still chose to steal episodes? K. Then you have the audacity to tell them that you don't like what they're putting out? šŸ« šŸ™„

Schwartz666

I told ya. You bought the couch, might as well fuck it.

Schwartz666

It's not gone. Just not in the Collection currently. You can find it if you scroll back through Posts.

Schwartz666

Why are they playing volleyball? Aren’t they in a fighting tournament to stop an evil company?!

Roland

Trans women are probably the most persecuted group in america right now. That said, what are you talking about? I listened to the first half again and idk if the issue is in the later half or I missed it? They say that the right ran on anti-trans stuff. They don’t actually suggest that Kamala was pro-anything. They also point out that it didn’t even work when the right ran on anti-trans stuff, they had to include the anti-Biden stuff to get over the line and point out Kentucky as an example. I really don’t think anyone here is your enemy. Unless you’re a fed and this is all in bad faith. Feds should kill themselves for sure.

Jack Gude

I gotta say Kingdom of Heaven really put the blame on the Christian armies. Saladin was the unquestionable wise and fair leader. Pretty brave choice considering the year it was released.

Matthew Dunn

Let's all enjoy the rich tapestry of various modes of Chapo.

Bill Bush

ā€œMr chapo please stop this boring, navel gazing slop. Felix solo narrating is not the best use of his skills as a riff master, combined with the extremely tedious and pretentious script from disgrace wunderkind ettingermentum… please mr Chapo help us *nearly 2 hour episode where Felix riffs with ettingermentum and some other wonky blowhard* >ā€ Not like that!!ā€

Justin Friedman

go jags

Noah Rust

i’ve been stealing episodes for like 5 years, $5 is nothing for me. sorry if you’re a brokie

Tyler

You paid to say this?

Jonathan G

Woa can I touch your abs?

July17

yea josh was bad enough as a guest. hearing his words in felix’s voice is awful

Tyler

listener since late 2016, i just resubscribed after years to say this was the worst series you guys have ever done. should have been scrapped after harris lost but even then it would have been horrible. were josh and spencer unthawed from 2007? im talking about the ā€œshrubā€ ā€œjokesā€ in particular. please do not collaborate with them anymore.

Tyler

I agree, it became way too attached the always tenuous 2022 midterm narrative that got btfo a few weeks ago

Jimmy B

online nazis being into moeblob anime is kind of an established and remarked upon phenomenon for more than 10 years

etienne

Funny since their whole ideology is more raynald of chatillon

Vincent

Bruh, Dead or Alive Volleyball is all ludonarrative dissonance if you ask me.

ploob

it’s like a huge RW thing now, they all post King Baldwin to each other

future man

Simple answer is that the writing was bad in this series.

Dan

Regarding the people's interaction with and reaction to the party's exercise of power, "backing Hitler - consent and coersion in nazi Germany" is a good book.

Radid

Nazism is about using incredible violence to create and secure pockets of retarded banality it makes perfect sense

C. Ries

yeah?

mariol struga

lmao i just bought and downloaded skyrim again lol

mariol struga

This started out kinda strong but I couldn't make it through the last few. Felt like the narrative kind of broke down around the 2010s?

Microplastic Lizard Brain

Holy shit… these school experiments these guys describe… I thought MY school was the only one that did this! Ours was called ā€œ1984 Dayā€. The school taped up graphics of a watchful eye over all the clocks, students were randomly selected to be imprisoned in the gym… Wild! Scared the shit out of me.

Death Ray

"I went to an elite private school-" and then I stopped paying attention to anything he has to say. Miss me with these rich kids trying to explain shit.

Noah Mickens

@drewb sure, Drag is a performance form that plays on a lot of mature concepts of gender, homosexuality. I don’t mean mature like explicit, I just mean mature like you’d need to be older than a child to get it. Things like stereotypes of gay men, the history and (former) taboo of being gay, bawdy and flirtatious humor sending up these stereotypes a la clowning, and more. Notice in my comment I said that drag is not a bad thing, just that it’s not meant for kids.

nick

Skywind reference? Nerd

Andrew Ratcliffe

Hell yeah shit on Nashville and the entire Midwest for no reason. So clever and unique.

Noah McClellan

This series is great, information-wise, but Felix is much funnier when he's not following a script. Better to work from an outline and riff Felix-style. Matt's style worked somewhat better on the Hell series, but for Felix spontaneity is essential.

Noah Mickens

If only we got henry wallace

Vincent

A lot of people didn't watch kingdom of heaven though. It wasn't a bomb but it didn't exactly smash the box office either

Vincent

If your pastor wore cargo shorts when preaching when you were a kid you will never be catholic, ever.

Troy DeCarolis

I’m saying I hear them in this one and other episodes talk like it’s all a nerdy little electoral power game; it’s not. There’s stuff in this ep I agree with but I am kind of like wait are we marxist historians here or not? I don’t think they really got a handle on it this episode or frankly any time since Matt left and I do think they really leaned in to culture wars stuff in a pretty dumb way

Hal Schrieve

Please describe exactly what in your mind makes someone dressed in a specific way reading a story to children not "age appropriate". What's suitable storytime attire? Should we prevent children from seeing any kind of costume or fancy dress in case that confuses them as well?

drewb

"K-on Nazi edit" is such a wild fucking phrase. Imagine believing in ethnic supremacy while also enjoying a twee slice of life anime series featuring teenage schoolgirls

drewb

Gotta correct Josh and say that Deus Vult first gained prominence again due to its usage in the Ridley Scott movie Kingdom of Heaven (2005) at the peak of war on terror Islamophobia saying it was CK2 is a clear example of zoomer media bias

Protracted posters war

Did you guys see the announcement that the new norm is going to fart

Adeline Rines

Shoutout to the haters and losers paying to post their lil mini-essays in the comments every weekšŸ»

Jack Gude

what didnt you like about it? (details pls)

gatito

Godhead work from Felix. Chapo still has the chops. More please

OPEC Dreams

Where did ep 6 disappear?

Clima Gabriel

Think you guys are right about 2014 bc why did I bop to the outro music…

Kirra Robyn

Hope Felix is enjoying Arma Reforger as much as we are

fuzz

Spencer’s podcast doesn’t show up when I search in Overcast! Don’t tell me he doesn’t have an RSS feed!

Roland

WHERES THE LINKS IN THE DESCRIPTION?! CHRIS!!!!

Roland

You aren’t a real person

Jesse Svetlich

Sorry but that’s not a fair cop. Over the span of the show there’s a wide breath of material analysis going on, it just happens to be combined with cultural criticism, media analysis, political trends, and historical series tie ins. To casually insinuate that they don’t care about the recipients of shit domestic policy means you haven’t been listening or are operating on motivated reasoning.

Jesse Svetlich

That Bush Sr and Dobbs wouldn't recognize this generation of right wing is telling. Crowder represents a pure symbolic exchange. The need for a cover or "scene" against the obscene reality of their hatred and rage is no longer needed. Trump being an "amorphous" figure (he points to the scene and the obscene) is fascinating. Can anyone replace him?

Khemith

Billionaire money is the closest they got to the "material".

Khemith

Now that this series is over. I'd like to see a series on failed progressive/leftist effort to reform the Democrat party post WW2. How working class politics became this guilt ridden "woke" play acting.

Khemith

I tell myself I barely witness but the truth i lack the constitution for suicide

darick michael lapaglia

I really liked the episode. You three together have a great comedic chemistry

Craig

Kamala Harris literally went to court to deny trans people healthcare and it was trans women specifically protesting her candidacy in 2020. Real dipshit claims there attempting to rewrite history in the same way mainstream DNC hacks are. Can't possibly be that the Dems are a broken party who ran the economy into the ground while committing genocide abroad and much of their base simply stayed home. No, must be those evil trannies. Go fuck yourselves.

Ana

Have you heard of these ā€œMolotov cocktailsā€

Chris Rose

I think the places you all do good are when you are in conversation with either material historians or people doing the work on the ground — there is sometimes incredible journalistic coverage on this podcast. The kind of self indulgent electoral strategy thing going on here tho, which isn’t super rooted in broad material analysis of like economic change or the condition of working people or tech or communication beyond vague references that don’t indicate complete understanding…you guys just get back into the kind of DSApilled ā€œpolitics as gamingā€ kind of convo— which in turn leads you all into the callousness that lets you talk about policies that will result in thousands of deaths imprisonments assaults etc with a goofy chuckle. It’s not great. I’m here because of the times when you get someone who is on the ground and knows what they’re talking about, not the times you all start talking about immigrants and trans people as if we are more or less rhetorical devices (or repeatedly jokingly saying the r slur, as happened a few months ago).

Hal Schrieve

Well, nice to hear my criticism of the previous episode and series confirmed in the first five minutes. And my point. it still stands! Felix. You guys didn’t fix the issues that stemmed from your starting and feeling this need to get it done right after the 22 midterm. A historical narrativeā€ based on the results of the 22 midterm is insane. The whole series’ second half flounders because of this. There was no reason to rush out with this Tracing the weird perversions of the religious right in detail from mid 70s to death of Roger ailes. God that would’ve been good Unfortunately you wasted like two and half hours on the 22 Virginia governors race. And pettinghermomentum saying asinine things like the right was leaderless in 22. Bitch. He was in mar a lago. Judging fashion shows with leathery dentists and live music by journey.

Hardcore Virgin

Unfortunate choice of words considering there was actual shots fired in nashville around this time.

Wingus

Hey Felix, I hear that preschools are making children sing "baa baa rainbow sheep". You should look into this.

JP

OK, there are reports today that Kamala and Doug's marriage actually is on the rocks now, so the theory that she's trying to return him might come to fruition.

K U

Why are you paying for it then?

Corey Reynolds

Felix opens his mouth cum comes out my pants it’s that simple

Goonba

Your mom keeps saying they're cool though

Vincent

Lucky for you your abomination of a country is going to be ended soon by god emperor trump

Vincent

you are canadian, so no sweat I got this for you. Vidya = millennial right wing internet gamergaters, "killed the radio star" refers to this new generation of media influence overtaking the old idiots who used to call the shots

Chris

I'll have to check out that podcast, Gamergate was insanely stupid and I wanna go back and reckon with it

Doug Cartel

I don’t get really why it’s titled seeking a fren for the end of the world. Or the episode titles are equally inscrutable like ā€œvidya killed the radio starā€ but with nothing about video games in it. Maybe I’m too dumb to get it. Or 3/4s of the obscure references made in this series.

Canadian

This took 2+ years to make? Not 2 months? Holy shit it was just Felix reading a google doc into a shitty mic and some music interspersed. I would’ve preferred to read it.

C. Ries

milwaukee is like 33% white lol

cara wessel

Yea no we’re pretty close btwn google’s mini nuclear plants being built and now Trump’s funding of massive data center construction justified as a national security spend… this is happening

Studio Novaya

the singularity isn't happening dog

etienne

Seems to be working now , thanks!

Savannakhet

All the Scott Walker in this series makes me feel like a targeted individual

Eddy

Crypto is the new subprime mortgage. I’ve been saying that since forever but the actual goddamn federal government simping bitcoin makes it something we should talk about.

Studio Novaya

The trans issue is šŸ’Æ a scapegoat tactic it will hurt us all a lot but it is a distraction from the economic insanity that has been ensuing and is continuing to ramp up as well as the Ai arms race. We are about to experience singularity and major widespread economic depression for normal people beyond what we’ve seen lately.

Studio Novaya

How?

Col. George Taylor

How many years till Vance converts to Judaism?

Michael Miller

Pod save level analysis from a couple of arrogant 12 year olds. Really something!

doodooass

The imaginary events in this post are weird culture war fiction.

Jamie McAfee

If anyone has ideas on how I could fuck with the daily wire lmk

Big James

daily wire moving here was like a natural disaster event in sim city except that it just continues to render harm

collin

Nashvillian here. The daily wire’s office is basically across the street from where I work. 90 Oceanside Drive. It’s completely unmarked and they have crazy security guards. If you go by at the right time of day you can spot Walsh in the parking lot. I used to intern the suite they occupy when there was another tenant there.

Big James

For sure. Place is overrun with california wasp diaspora. still decent movement in city politics when matt walsh isnt trying to get vandy doctors lynched

collin

I live here and I know a ton of leftys, and beyond that it’s largely liberal

Big James

Oh shit, a double uncle???

Doug Cartel

What the ā€œwokeā€ crowd doesn’t compute, and what cost them big, is the idea of age appropriateness. It’s good to learn about racism and bias and take a critical view of history and politics, etc. but this is good to learn once you have a baseline knowledge to revise in the first place. If this is your early (or even first) exposure to these topics how can you grow up to function at all? All you ever learned is that everything sucks. Elsewhere, I don’t think drag is degenerate or evil but you can admit that maybe it’s pg-13 and not aimed at or appropriate for toddlers, so even if drag queen story hours aren’t as widespread as the media might suggest, liberals’ insistence that actually they are good is alienating.

nick

The best gay adjacent podcast since Marc Maron

Ernest Ambrus

what would they do without one more fart sniffer like you?

buttface

Damn: shots fired at Nashville. Nashville is a blue city and has had a Dem mayor going all the way back to the 1960’s(yes Dixiecrats too, not true libs). Ben Shapiro, Candance Owens aren’t from here. Nashville has been invaded by California country club conservatives. They’re bland people. About as interesting as paper.

Corey Reynolds

They'll start taking programming notes from you any day now, just keep at it

Chris Rose

Will there be a Qanon for trumps 2nd term?

Corey Reynolds

I’m already ready for the mid 2010s throwback era https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5xGOGHwuV0FMkrgBE1nTyQ?si=bD8H1Vy3R5y_DtkBQn6b4g&pi=u-LMvA0-3XQHaX

Christian Bendillo

do better chapo

buttface

These guys are so out of touch.

Nakatomi_Jones

Check out this beautiful cat!

Richard Cochnar

this shit sucks - couldn't make it through one entire episode

buttface

seeing all the comments on this, just checked and everything looks ok on my end, will try to figure it out

Chapo Trap House

Do they have to do another 7 episodes explaining how bad the dems are?

brendo

*insert Queeber and the Gris stinger*

Ian H. B.

Right after the election I spoke with someone who worked with a Dem Super PAC. Apparently Dems had an ad ready to go to counter the "She's for they/them" spot that touted inclusivity and the inherent weirdness of the GOP's trans-people obsession; my friend told me that none other than David Shor himself 86'd that spot because he thought it wasn't a winner. Absolute loser shit.

technicolor jan stenerud

Brett cooper is the sorkin dream girl. Guy name and quirky/competent

darick michael lapaglia

This series was the most lib-pilled shit ever posted on the feed.

gonzopitcher

Loving all the Scott Walker

JD

why is mario packing more cake now? why does he jump with zezt

SM21

JD out here choosing religions the way MurderBryan chooses slow cookers — give me the most expensive / oldest one

KS

These were so good yall, thank you again! ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø

The True Horror

RSS broke. No RSS in the patreon membership tab. Fix it!

Gum

My RSS is bricked yo

Colton Koprowski

My RSS is also not working for this ep

Ellis Woollatt

doctor i’m dying of woke

kenton

Copy uh oh, we have uh oh

kelz

Hey Chris; there's a URL error on the RSS feed - dunno if it's just me or not.

Savannakhet

I’m gonna have this username forever I guess

JD Nonce

Boner alert 🚨🚨

Riley Kelly

Cumdancingg

MATT TRIANO

It's called "Executive Time," Mr. VP

Schwartz666

Can’t fucking believe I have to work late so I can’t listen to this until later

JD Nonce

Thirst 🤤

claus_mc

First

J.P. McD.


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